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Dating Advice: How can I get girls' phone numbers and not feel like a loser when I have a flip phone?

Going through financial tough times right now, and having a flip phone as a young 20's guy is not the most attractive/confidence building, especially when making first impressions with women... one girl literally scoffed when I pulled out my phone. Any help is appreciated.
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Franklin Veaux
Franklin Veaux, co-author of More Than Two: A Practical Guide to Ethical Polyamory
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I think if your self-esteem is so fragile that it is affected by the kind of phone you have, you maybe might want to work on that before you do anything else. Self-esteem comes from within, not from the outside. If you need external things like phones, cars, or money in order to feel confident...you aren't confident.

So, to answer your question: How do you not feel like a loser? By developing genuine self-esteem.
Claire J. Vannette
Claire J. Vannette, dates and has relationships
I think you should feel fortunate to have such an effective filter for unsuitable women. If you ask a girl for her number, and she agrees to give it to you, and then loses interest in you when you pull out your flip phone, you've saved yourself the trouble of dating a shallow moron.

Keep in mind that people will take their cues from you. If you're ashamed of your phone, they'll pick up on that and mirror it. If, on the other hand, you grin and proudly show off your vintage retro telephonic device, perhaps giving her some historical factoids about this prized collector's item, the mood changes, and so will her reaction.
Fingal Wang
Fingal Wang, Small Business Owner finesseautosales.com
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I would say, do it even more old school than a flip phone, and use this ancient method called "pen and paper".  Take the time to write down her name, and show off your cursive handwriting skills.  They sell cheap replicas of a pen like this, and nice faux leather notepad for a couple bucks at the dollar store.

Own the presentation and make sure your writing skills are boss, and she won't know it's not a mont blanc (and that you have a flip phone), until she gets to know your award winning personality and by then she should be already hooked!
CamMi Pham
CamMi Pham, Dating Consultant @ Tindersociety.com

This is a true story.

A few years ago, I was at a party. Most people there were very wealthy. There were many diplomats, executives and wealthy businessmen.

There was a tiny man who dressed very average. He stood at the corner drinking his scotch. I came over and said hi. In a room of  expensive tailored suits, the man looked like someone's chauffeur.

We chatted for a while and he took out his phone for something. He had an old "dumb phone" that costed less than the  drink I was holding at a decent bar.  The amount of high end and luxury phones in that room was ridiculous. We had people who flashed their gold phone.

Anyway, we exchanged numbers. When it was time to go home, he just took a taxi home when everyone else called their chauffeurs.

I had too many drinks to try to figure out who he was. But from the clothes, phone, and car, he didn't look like a big deal.

The next day, I sent him a thank you text for watering down my drink. I was on a trip, I didn't have my stationery for a proper thank you card. It was nice of him to make sure I was not drinking too much. He asked to hang out. I said yes because he was cool and nice. I love meeting random smart people and bounce ideas.

When I got to dinner, it was at a lovely nice restaurant in a nice high end building. We chatted about architecture and culture (He was an architect and I was studying architecture). He told me he works in real estate.

A few days later, I had dinner with a friend. I asked him if he knew who the Taiwanese man was. Turned out the tiny guy was one of the main investors of this skyscraper in the heart of the city. He also invested in many other projects in town. His net worth was more than many people at that party with fancy + luxury smartphones combined.

During our dinner, I asked the Taiwanese man why he uses a dumb phone when he can buy the most expensive phone on the market.

He replied- It works and does exactly what I need.

Never judge a person by his phone. Jack Dorsey used to take the bus to work. His net worth is 2.7 B. Warren Buffet lives in a normal 5 bedroom house. It doesn't stop me from admiring these people. It makes them even more interesting.

You won't be able to afford the girls who have a problem with your phone anyway. It is a nice filter to have.

At the end of the day, don't feel bad about it. It is just a tool in our life. You cannot let people define who you are with your phone. You need to tell them.

Pull out your phone with confidence and tell the story you want people to hear. You are the person who can control your personal brand, don't let other people tell your story.

A smart man once said to me. "I don't care how you spend money. I want to know how you make money."

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Cammi is a dating consultant at Tinder Society,  a private community where men can get instant feedback on their Tinder profiles, messages, and strategies.

If they complain, tell them it's the same phone Warren Buffett uses:


(Also: Why Some Power Dialers Still Flip for Flip Phones)

More seriously though...

Most people DO NOT care about your phone. I have one of these bad boys and haven't had any problems dating. I often ride my bicycle to meet my dates because I don't have a car, while they have driven there, sometimes in very fancy cars.

Do some people care? Of course! I had one very enthusiastic girl simply walk away after she saw my phone. "I can't date you if you have that phone", she said. I understand, I said, and went and talked to someone else. 

Do things that make you a confident, fun, and engaging person. Learn to fascinate her mind with your words and deeds. And she'll want to hear from you again, even if it's a telegram.
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