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If there had definitely been a global flood, as depicted in the Bible, what form would the supporting scientific evidence take?

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Jeff Lee
Jeff Lee, Truth Seeker
Let us just say that, of the hundreds of scientific impossibilities that would have to be addressed, most of them cited in "Problems With a Global Flood, by Mark Isaak, at least a dozen would have to be addressed:



Creationist models are often criticized for being too vague to have any predictive value. A literal interpretation of the Flood story in Genesis, however, does imply certain physical consequences which can be tested against what we actually observe, and the implications of such an interpretation are investigated below. Some creationists provided even more detailed models, and these are also addressed (see especially sections 5 and 7).
References are listed at the end of each section.
Two kinds of flood model are not addressed here. First is the local flood. Genesis 6-8 can be interpreted as a homiletic story such that the "world" that was flooded was just the area that Noah knew. Creationists argue against the local flood model because it doesn't fit their own literalist preconceptions, but I know of no physical evidence contrary to such a model.
Second, the whole story can be dismissed as a series of supernatural miracles. There is no way to contradict such an argument. However, one must wonder about a God who reportedly does one thing and then arranges every bit of evidence to make it look like something else happened. It's entirely possible that a global flood occurred 4000 years ago or even last Thursday, and that God subsequently erased all the evidence, including our memories of it. But even if such stories are true, what's the point?

1. Building the Ark


Wood is not the best material for shipbuilding. It is not enough that a ship be built to hold together; it must also be sturdy enough that the changing stresses don't open gaps in its hull. Wood is simply not strong enough to prevent separation between the joints, especially in the heavy seas that the Ark would have encountered. The longest wooden ships in modern seas are about 300 feet, and these require reinforcing with iron straps and leak so badly they must be constantly pumped. The ark was 450 feet long [ Gen. 6:15]. Could an ark that size be made seaworthy?

2. Gathering the Animals


Bringing all kinds of animals together in the vicinity of the ark presents significant problems.
Could animals have traveled from elsewhere? If the animals traveled from other parts of the world, many of them would have faced extreme difficulties.
  • Some, like sloths and penguins, can't travel overland very well at all.
  • Some, like koalas and many insects, require a special diet. How did they bring it along?
  • Some cave-dwelling arthropods can't survive in less than 100% relative humidity.
  • Some, like dodos, must have lived on islands. If they didn't, they would have been easy prey for other animals. When mainland species like rats or pigs are introduced to islands, they drive many indigenous species to extinction. Those species would not have been able to survive such competition if they lived where mainland species could get at them before the Flood.

Could animals have all lived near Noah? Some creationists suggest that the animals need not have traveled far to reach the Ark; a moderate climate could have made it possible for all of them to live nearby all along. However, this proposal makes matters even worse. The last point above would have applied not only to island species, but to almost all species. Competition between species would have driven most of them to extinction.
There is a reason why Gila monsters, yaks, and quetzals don't all live together in a temperate climate. They can't survive there, at least not for long without special care. Organisms have preferred environments outside of which they are at a deadly disadvantage. Most extinctions are caused by destroying the organisms' preferred environments. The creationists who propose all the species living together in a uniform climate are effectively proposing the destruction of all environments but one. Not many species could have survived that.
How was the Ark loaded? Getting all the animals aboard the Ark presents logistical problems which, while not impossible, are highly impractical. Noah had only seven days to load the Ark ( Gen. 7:4-10). If only 15764 animals were aboard the Ark (see section 3), one animal must have been loaded every 38 seconds, without letup. Since there were likely more animals to load, the time pressures would have been even worse.

3. Fitting the Animals Aboard


To determine how much space is required for animals, we must first determine what is a kind, how many kinds were aboard the ark, and how big they were.
What is a kind? Creationists themselves can't decide on an answer to this question; they propose criteria ranging from species to order, and I have even seen an entire kingdom (bacteria) suggested as a single kind. Woodmorappe (p. 5-7) compromises by using genus as a kind. However, on the ark "kind" must have meant something closer to species for three reasons:
  • For purposes of naming animals, the people who live among them distinguish between them (that is, give them different names) at roughly the species level. [Gould, 1980]
  • The Biblical "kind," according to most interpretations, implies reproductive separateness. On the ark, the purpose of gathering different kinds was to preserve them by later reproduction. Species, by definition, is the level at which animals are reproductively distinct.
  • The Flood, according to models, was fairly recent. There simply wouldn't have been time enough to accumulate the number of mutations necessary for the diversity of species we see within many genera today.

What kinds were aboard the ark? Woodmorappe and Whitcomb & Morris arbitrarily exclude all animals except mammals, birds, and reptiles. However, many other animals, particularly land arthropods, must also have been on the ark for two reasons:
  • The Bible says so. Gen. 7:8 puts on the ark all creatures that move along the ground, with no further qualifications. Lev. 11:42includes arthropods (creatures that "walk on many feet") in such a category.
  • They couldn't survive outside. Gen. 7:21-23 says every land creature not aboard the ark perished. And indeed, not one insect species in a thousand could survive for half a year on the vegetation mats proposed by some creationists. Most other land arthropods, snails, slugs, earthworms, etc. would also have to be on the ark to survive.

Were dinosaurs and other extinct animals on the ark? According to the Bible, Noah took samples of all animals alive at the time of the Flood. If, as creationists claim, all fossil-bearing strata were deposited by the Flood, then all the animals which became fossils were alive then. Therefore all extinct land animals had representatives aboard the ark.
It is also worth pointing out that the number of extinct species is undoubtedly greater than the number of known extinct species. New genera of dinosaurs have been discovered at a nearly constant rate for more than a century, and there's no indication that the rate of discovery will fall off in the near future.
Were the animals aboard the ark mature? Woodmorappe gets his animals to fit only by taking juvenile pairs of everything weighing more than 22 lbs. as an adult. However, it is more likely that Noah would have brought adults aboard:
  • The Bible (Gen. 7:2) speaks of "the male and his mate," indicating that the animals were at sexual maturity.
  • Many animals require the care of adults to teach them behaviors they need for survival. If brought aboard as juveniles, these animals wouldn't have survived.

The last point does not apply to all animals. However, the animals don't need parental care tend to be animals that mature quickly, and thus would be close to adult size after a year of growth anyway.
How many clean animals were on the ark? The Bible says either seven or fourteen (it's ambiguous) of each kind of clean animal was aboard. It defines clean animals essentially as ruminants, a suborder which includes about 69 recent genera, 192 recent species [Wilson & Reeder, 1993], and probably a comparable number of extinct genera and species. That is a small percentage of the total number of species, but ruminants are among the largest mammals, so their bulk is significant.
Woodmorappe (p. 8-9) gets around the problem by citing Jewish tradition which gives only 13 domestic genera as clean. He then calculates that this would increase the total animal mass by 2-3% and decides that this amount is small enough that he can ignore it completely. However, even Jewish sources admit that this contradicts the unambiguous word of the Bible. [Steinsaltz, 1976, p. 187]
The number and size of clean birds is small enough to disregard entirely, but the Bible at one point (Gen. 7:3) says seven of all kinds of birds were aboard.
So, could they all fit? It is important to take the size of animals into account when considering how much space they would occupy because the greatest number of species occurs in the smallest animals. Woodmorappe performed such an analysis and came to the conclusion that the animals would take up 47% of the ark. In addition, he determines that about 10% of the ark was needed for food (compacted to take as little space as possible) and 9.4% for water (assuming no evaporation or wastage). At least 25% of the space would have been needed for corridors and bracing. Thus, increasing the quantity of animals by more than about 5% would overload the ark.
However, Woodmorappe makes several questionable and invalid assumptions. Here's how the points discussed above affect his analysis. Table 1 shows Woodmorappe's analysis and some additional calculations.Table 1: Size analysis of animals aboard the Ark. Page numbers refer to Woodmorappe, 1996, from which the figures in the row are taken. (Minor arithmetic errors in totals are corrected.) Woodmorappe treats many animals as juveniles; "yearling" masses are masses of those animals after one year of growth. "Total mass after one year" is the maximum load which Woodmorappe allows for. Additional clean animal figures assume they are taken aboard by sevens, not seven pairs, and also assume juvenile animals.Log mass range (g)0-11-22-33-44-55-66-77-8 Ave. mass (kg) (p. 13).005.05.5550316316031600 # of mammals (p. 10)4661570137814101462892246 7424# of birds (p. 10)63022721172450704  4598# of reptiles (p. 10)6428446884923962862701063724total # of animals17384686323823521928118251610615746Ave. yearling mass (kg) (p. 66).005.05.55101003001000 Total mass after one year8.7234.316191176019280118200154800106000411902Total mass assuming adults8.7234.316191176096400373512163056033496005463694Additional clean birds157556802930112517510  11495Additional ruminants (138 genera)    26042010 690Additional clean animal mass (yearling weight, kg)8284146556254350430003000 47600
  • Collecting each species instead of each genus would increase the number of individuals three- to fourfold. The most speciose groups tend to be the smaller animals, though, so the total mass would be approximately doubled or tripled.
  • Collecting all land animals instead of just mammals, birds, and reptiles would have insignificant impact on the space required, since those animals, though plentiful, are so small. (The problems come when you try to care for them all.)
  • Leaving off the long-extinct animals would free considerable space. Woodmorappe doesn't say how many of the animals in his calculations are known only from fossils, but it is apparently 50-70% of them, including most of the large ones. However, since he took only juveniles of the large animals, leaving off all the dinosaurs etc. would probably not free more than 80% of the space. On the other hand, collecting all extinct animals in addition to just the known ones would increase the load by an unknown but probably substantial amount.
  • Loading adults instead of juveniles as small as Woodmorappe uses would increase the load 13- to 50-fold.
  • Including extra clean animals would increase the load by 1.5-3% if only the 13 traditional domestic ruminants are considered, but by 14-28% if all ruminants are considered clean.

In conclusion, an ark of the size specified in the Bible would not be large enough to carry a cargo of animals and food sufficient to repopulate the earth, especially if animals that are now extinct were required to be aboard.

References


Gould, Stephen Jay, 1980. A quahog is a quahog. In The panda's thumb, Norton, New York.
Steinsaltz, Adin, 1976. The essential Talmud. Basic books.
Whitcomb, J.C. Jr. & H.M. Morris, 1961. The Genesis Flood. Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Co., Philadelphia PA.
Wilson, D.E. & D.M. Reeder (eds.), 1993. Mammal species of the world. Smithsonian Institution Press. (http://www.nmnh.si.edu/msw/)
Woodmorappe, John, 1996. Noah's Ark: a feasibility study. Institute for Creation Research, Santee, California.

4. Caring for the Animals


Special diets. Many animals, especially insects, require special diets. Koalas, for example, require eucalyptus leaves, and silkworms eat nothing but mulberry leaves. For thousands of plant species (perhaps even most plants), there is at least one animal that eats only that one kind of plant. How did Noah gather all those plants aboard, and where did he put them?
Other animals are strict carnivores, and some of those specialize on certain kinds of foods, such as small mammals, insects, fish, or aquatic invertebrates. How did Noah determine and provide for all those special diets?
Fresh foods. Many animals require their food to be fresh. Many snakes, for example, will eat only live foods (or at least warm and moving). Parasitoid wasps only attack living prey. Most spiders locate their prey by the vibrations it produces. [Foelix, 1996] Most herbivorous insects require fresh food. Aphids, in fact, are physically incapable of sucking from wilted leaves. How did Noah keep all these food supplies fresh?
Food preservation/Pest control. Food spoilage is a major concern on long voyages; it was especially thus before the inventions of canning and refrigeration. The large quantities of food aboard would have invited infestations of any of hundreds of stored product pests (especially since all of those pests would have been aboard), and the humidity one would expect aboard the Ark would have provided an ideal environment for molds. How did Noah keep pests from consuming most of the food?
Ventilation. The ark would need to be well ventilated to disperse the heat, humidity, and waste products (including methane, carbon dioxide, and ammonia) from the many thousands of animals which were crowded aboard. Woodmorappe (pp. 37-42) interprets Genesis 6:16 to mean there was an 18-inch opening all around the top, and says that this, with slight breezes, would have been enough to provide adequate ventilation. However, the ark was divided into separate rooms and decks (Gen. 6:14,16). How was fresh air circulated throughout the structure?
Sanitation. The ungulates alone would have produced tons of manure a day. The waste on the lowest deck at least (and possibly the middle deck) could not simply be pushed overboard, since the deck was below the water line; the waste would have to be carried up a deck or two. Vermicomposting could reduce the rate of waste accumulation, but it requires maintenance of its own. How did such a small crew dispose of so much waste?
Exercise/Animal handling. The animals aboard the ark would have been in very poor shape unless they got regular exercise. (Imagine if you had to stay in an area the size of a closet for a year.) How were several thousand diverse kinds of animals exercised regularly?
Manpower for feeding, watering, etc. How did a crew of eight manage a menagerie larger and more diverse than that found in zoos requiring many times that many employees? Woodmorappe claims that eight people could care for 16000 animals, but he makes many unrealistic and invalid assumptions. Here are a few things he didn't take into account:
  • Feeding the animals would take much longer if the food was in containers to protect it from pests.
  • Many animals would have to be hand-fed.
  • Watering several animals at once via troughs would not work aboard a ship. The water would be sloshed out by the ship's roll.
  • Many animals, in such an artificial environment, would have required additional special care. For example, all of the hoofed animals would need to have their hooves trimmed several times during the year. [Batten, 1976, pp. 39-42]
  • Not all manure could be simply pushed overboard; a third of it at least would have to be carried up at least one deck.
  • Corpses of the dead animals would have to be removed regularly.
  • Animals can't be expected to run laps and return to their cages without a lot of human supervision.

References


Batten, R. Peter, 1976. Living trophies. Thomas Y. Crowell Co., New York.
Foelix, Rainer F., 1996. The biology of spiders, 2nd ed., Oxford University Press, New York. Chpt. 6.
Woodmorappe, John, 1996. Noah's Ark: a feasibility study. Institute for Creation Research, Santee, California.

5. The Flood Itself


Where did the Flood water come from, and where did it go? Several people have proposed answers to these questions, but none which consider all the implications of their models. A few of the commonly cited models are addressed below.
Vapor canopy. This model, proposed by Whitcomb & Morris and others, proposes that much of the Flood water was suspended overhead until the 40 days of rain which caused the Flood. The following objections are covered in more detail by Brown.
  • How was the water suspended, and what caused it to fall all at once when it did?
  • If a canopy holding the equivalent to more than 40 feet of water were part of the atmosphere, it would raise the atmospheric pressure accordingly, raising oxygen and nitrogen levels to toxic levels.
  • If the canopy began as vapor, any water from it would be superheated. This scenario essentially starts with most of the Flood waters boiled off. Noah and company would be poached. If the water began as ice in orbit, the gravitational potential energy would likewise raise the temperature past boiling.
  • A canopy of any significant thickness would have blocked a great deal of light, lowering the temperature of the earth greatly before the Flood.
  • Any water above the ozone layer would not be shielded from ultraviolet light, and the light would break apart the water molecules.

Hydroplate. Walt Brown's model proposes that the Flood waters came from a layer of water about ten miles underground, which was released by a catastrophic rupture of the earth's crust, shot above the atmosphere, and fell as rain.
  • How was the water contained? Rock, at least the rock which makes up the earth's crust, doesn't float. The water would have been forced to the surface long before Noah's time, or Adam's time for that matter.
  • Even a mile deep, the earth is boiling hot, and thus the reservoir of water would be superheated. Further heat would be added by the energy of the water falling from above the atmosphere. As with the vapor canopy model, Noah would have been poached.
  • Where is the evidence? The escaping waters would have eroded the sides of the fissures, producing poorly sorted basaltic erosional deposits. These would be concentrated mainly near the fissures, but some would be shot thousands of miles along with the water. (Noah would have had to worry about falling rocks along with the rain.) Such deposits would be quite noticeable but have never been seen.

Comet. Kent Hovind proposed that the Flood water came from a comet which broke up and fell on the earth. Again, this has the problem of the heat from the gravitational potential energy. The water would be steam by the time it reached the surface of the earth.
Runaway subduction. John Baumgardner created the runaway subduction model, which proposes that the pre-Flood lithosphere (ocean floor), being denser than the underlying mantle, began sinking. The heat released in the process decreased the viscosity of the mantle, so the process accelerated catastrophically. All the original lithosphere became subducted; the rising magma which replaced it raised the ocean floor, causing sea levels to rise and boiling off enough of the ocean to cause 150 days of rain. When it cooled, the ocean floor lowered again, and the Flood waters receded. Sedimentary mountains such as the Sierras and Andes rose after the Flood by isostatic rebound. [Baumgardner, 1990a; Austin et al., 1994]
  • The main difficulty of this theory is that it admittedly doesn't work without miracles. [Baumgardner, 1990a, 1990b] The thermal diffusivity of the earth, for example, would have to increase 10,000 fold to get the subduction rates proposed [Matsumura, 1997], and miracles are also necessary to cool the new ocean floor and to raise sedimentary mountains in months rather than in the millions of years it would ordinarily take.
  • Baumgardner estimates a release of 1028 joules from the subduction process. This is more than enough to boil off all the oceans. In addition, Baumgardner postulates that the mantle was much hotter before the Flood (giving it greater viscosity); that heat would have to go somewhere, too.
  • Cenozoic sediments are post-Flood according to this model. Yet fossils from Cenozoic sediments alone show a 65-million-year record of evolution, including a great deal of the diversification of mammals and angiosperms. [Carroll, 1997, chpts. 5, 6, & 13]
  • Subduction on the scale Baumgardner proposes would have produced very much more vulcanism around plate boundaries than we see. [Matsumura, 1997]

New ocean basins. Most flood models (including those above, possibly excepting Hovind's) deal with the water after the flood by proposing that it became our present oceans. The earth's terrain, according to this model, was much, much flatter during the Flood, and through cataclysms, the mountains were pushed up and the ocean basins lowered. (Brown proposes that the cataclysms were caused by the crust sliding around on a cushion of water; Whitcomb & Morris don't give a cause.)
  • How could such a change be effected? To change the density and/or temperature of at least a quarter of the earth's crust fast enough to raise and lower the ocean floor in a matter of months would require mechanisms beyond any proposed in any of the flood models.
  • Why are most sediments on high ground? Most sediments are carried until the water slows down or stops. If the water stopped in the oceans, we should expect more sediments there. Baumgardner's own modeling shows that, during the Flood, currents would be faster over continents than over ocean basins [Baumgardner, 1994], so sediments should, on the whole, be removed from continents and deposited in ocean basins. Yet sediments on the ocean basin average 0.6 km thick, while on continents (including continental shelves), they average 2.6 km thick. [Poldervaart, 1955]
  • Where's the evidence? The water draining from the continents would have produced tremendous torrents. There is evidence of similar flooding in the Scablands of Washington state (from the draining of a lake after the breaking of an ice dam) and on the far western floor of the Mediterranean Sea (from the ocean breaking through the Straits of Gibralter). Why is such evidence not found worldwide?
  • How did the ark survive the process? Such a wholesale restructuring of the earth's topography, compressed into just a few months, would have produced tsunamis large enough to circle the earth. The aftershocks alone would have been devastating for years afterwards.

References


Austin, Steven A., John R. Baumgardner, D. Russell Humphreys, Andrew A. Snelling, Larry Vardiman, & Kurt P. Wise, 1994. Catastrophic plate tectonics: a global flood model of earth history. Proceedings of the third international conference on creationism, technical symposium sessions, pp. 609-621.
Brown, Walt, 1997. In the beginning: compelling evidence for creation and the Flood. (www.creationscience.com/onlinebook)
Baumgardner, John R., 1990a. Changes accompanying Noah's Flood. Proceedings of the second international conference on creationism, vol. II, pp. 35-45.
Baumgardner, John R., 1990b. The imparative of non-stationary natural law in relation to Noah's Flood. Creation Research Society Quarterly 27(3): 98-100.
Baumgardner, John R., 1994. Patterns of ocean circulation over the continents during Noah's Flood. Proceedings of the third international conference on creationism, technical symposium sessions, pp. 77-86.
Carroll, Robert L., 1997. Patterns and processes of vertebrate evolution, Cambridge University Press.
Matsumura, Molleen, 1997. Miracles in, creationism out: "The geophysics of God".Reports of the National Center for Science Education 17(3): 29-32.
Poldervaart, Arie, 1955. Chemistry of the earth's crust. pp. 119-144 In: Poldervaart, A., ed., Crust of the Earth, Geological Society of America Special Paper 62, Waverly Press, MD.
Whitcomb, J.C. Jr. & H.M. Morris, 1961. The Genesis Flood. Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Co., Philadelphia PA.

6. Implications of a Flood


A global flood would have produce evidence contrary to the evidence we see.
How do you explain the relative ages of mountains? For example, why weren't the Sierra Nevadas eroded as much as the Appalachians during the Flood?
Why is there no evidence of a flood in ice core series? Ice cores from Greenland have been dated back more than 40,000 years by counting annual layers. [Johnsen et al, 1992,; Alley et al, 1993] A worldwide flood would be expected to leave a layer of sediments, noticeable changes in salinity and oxygen isotope ratios, fractures from buoyancy and thermal stresses, a hiatus in trapped air bubbles, and probably other evidence. Why doesn't such evidence show up?
How are the polar ice caps even possible? Such a mass of water as the Flood would have provided sufficient buoyancy to float the polar caps off their beds and break them up. They wouldn't regrow quickly. In fact, the Greenland ice cap would not regrow under modern (last 10 ky) climatic conditions.
Why did the Flood not leave traces on the sea floors? A year long flood should be recognizable in sea bottom cores by (1) an uncharacteristic amount of terrestrial detritus, (2) different grain size distributions in the sediment, (3) a shift in oxygen isotope ratios (rain has a different isotopic composition from seawater), (4) a massive extinction, and (n) other characters. Why do none of these show up?
Why is there no evidence of a flood in tree ring dating? Tree ring records go back more than 10,000 years, with no evidence of a catastrophe during that time. [Becker & Kromer, 1993; Becker et al, 1991; Stuiver et al, 1986]

References


Alley, R. B., D. A. Meese, C. A. Shuman, A. J. Gow, K.C. Taylor, P. M. Grootes, J. W. C. White, M. Ram, E. W. Waddington, P. A. Mayewski, & G. A. Zielinski, 1993. Abrupt increase in Greenland snow accumulation at the end of the Younger Dryas event.Nature 362: 527-529.
Becker, B. & Kromer, B., 1993. The continental tree-ring record - absolute chronology, C-14 calibration and climatic-change at 11 KA. Palaeogeography Palaeoclimatology Palaeoecology, 103 (1-2): 67-71.
Becker, B., Kromer, B. & Trimborn, P., 1991. A stable-isotope tree-ring timescale of the late glacial Holocene boundary. Nature 353 (6345): 647-649.
Johnsen, S. J., H. B. Clausen, W. Dansgaard, K. Fuhrer, N. Gundestrap, C. U. Hammer, P. Iversen, J. Jouzel, B. Stauffer, & J. P. Steffensen, 1992. Irregular glacial interstadials recorded in a new Greenland ice core. Nature 359: 311-313.
Stuiver, Minze, et al, 1986. Radiocarbon age calibration back to 13,300 years BP and the 14 C age matching of the German Oak and US bristlecone pine chronologies. IN: Calibration issue / Stuiver, Minze, et al., Radiocarbon 28(2B): 969-979.

7. Producing the Geological Record


Most people who believe in a global flood also believe that the flood was responsible for creating all fossil-bearing strata. (The alternative, that the strata were laid down slowly and thus represent a time sequence of several generations at least, would prove that some kind of evolutionary process occurred.) However, there is a great deal of contrary evidence.
Before you argue that fossil evidence was dated and interpreted to meet evolutionary assumptions, remember that the geological column and the relative dates therein were laid out by people who believed divine creation, before Darwin even formulated his theory. (See, for example, Moore [1973], or the closing pages of Dawson [1868].)
Why are geological eras consistent worldwide? How do you explain worldwide agreement between "apparent" geological eras and several different (independent) radiometric and nonradiometric dating methods? [e.g., Short et al, 1991]
How was the fossil record sorted in an order convenient for evolution? Ecological zonation, hydrodynamic sorting, and differential escape fail to explain:
  • the extremely good sorting observed. Why didn't at least one dinosaur make it to the high ground with the elephants?
  • the relative positions of plants and other non-motile life. (Yun, 1989, describes beautifully preserved algae from Late Precambrian sediments. Why don't any modern-looking plants appear that low in the geological column?)
  • why some groups of organisms, such as mollusks, are found in many geologic strata.
  • why organisms (such as brachiopods) which are very similar hydrodynamically (all nearly the same size, shape, and weight) are still perfectly sorted.
  • why extinct animals which lived in the same niches as present animals didn't survive as well. Why did no pterodons make it to high ground?
  • how coral reefs hundreds of feet thick and miles long were preserved intact with other fossils below them.
  • why small organisms dominate the lower strata, whereas fluid mechanics says they would sink slower and thus end up in upper strata.
  • why artifacts such as footprints and burrows are also sorted. [Crimes & Droser, 1992]
  • why no human artifacts are found except in the very uppermost strata. If, at the time of the Flood, the earth was overpopulated by people with technology for shipbuilding, why were none of their tools or buildings mixed with trilobite or dinosaur fossils?
  • why different parts of the same organisms are sorted together. Pollen and spores are found in association with the trunks, leaves, branches, and roots produced by the same plants [Stewart, 1983].
  • why ecological information is consistent within but not between layers. Fossil pollen is one of the more important indicators of different levels of strata. Each plant has different and distinct pollen, and, by telling which plants produced the fossil pollen, it is easy to see what the climate was like in different strata. Was the pollen hydraulically sorted by the flood water so that the climatic evidence is different for each layer?

How do surface features appear far from the surface? Deep in the geologic column there are formations which could have originated only on the surface, such as:
  • Rain drops. [Robb, 1992]
  • River channels. [Miall, 1996, especially chpt. 6]
  • Wind-blown dunes. [Kocurek & Dott, 1981; Clemmenson & Abrahamsen, 1983; Hubert & Mertz, 1984]
  • Beaches.
  • Glacial deposits. [Eyles & Miall, 1984]
  • Burrows. [Crimes & Droser, 1992; Thackray, 1994]
  • In-place trees. [Cristie & McMillan, 1991]
  • Soil. [Reinhardt & Sigleo, 1989; Wright, 1986, 1994]
  • Desiccation cracks. [Andrews, 1988; Robb, 1992]
  • Footprints. [Gore, 1993, has a photograph (p. 16-17) showing dinosaur footprints in one layer with water ripples in layers above and below it. Gilette & Lockley, 1989, have several more examples, including dinosaur footprints on top of a coal seam (p. 361-366).]
  • Meteorites and meteor craters. [Grieve, 1997; Schmitz et al, 1997]
  • Coral reefs. [Wilson, 1975]
  • Cave systems. [James & Choquette, 1988]

How could these have appeared in the midst of a catastrophic flood?
How does a global flood explain angular unconformities? These are where one set of layers of sediments have been extensively modified (e.g., tilted) and eroded before a second set of layers were deposited on top. They thus seem to require at least two periods of deposition (more, where there is more than one unconformity) with long periods of time in between to account for the deformation, erosion, and weathering observed.
How were mountains and valleys formed? Many very tall mountains are composed of sedimentary rocks. (The summit of Everest is composed of deep-marine limestone, with fossils of ocean-bottom dwelling crinoids [Gansser, 1964].) If these were formed during the Flood, how did they reach their present height, and when were the valleys between them eroded away? Keep in mind that many valleys were clearly carved by glacial erosion, which is a slow process.
When did granite batholiths form? Some of these are intruded into older sediments and have younger sediments on their eroded top surfaces. It takes a long time for magma to cool into granite, nor does granite erode very quickly. [For example, see Donohoe & Grantham, 1989, for locations of contact between the South Mountain Batholith and the Meugma Group of sediments, as well as some angular unconformities.]
How can a single flood be responsible for such extensively detailed layering? One formation in New Jersey is six kilometers thick. If we grant 400 days for this to settle, and ignore possible compaction since the Flood, we still have 15 meters of sediment settling per day. And yet despite this, the chemical properties of the rock are neatly layered, with great changes (e.g.) in percent carbonate occurring within a few centimeters in the vertical direction. How does such a neat sorting process occur in the violent context of a universal flood dropping 15 meters of sediment per day? How can you explain a thin layer of high carbonate sediment being deposited over an area of ten thousand square kilometers for some thirty minutes, followed by thirty minutes of low carbonate deposition, etc.? [Zimmer, 1992]
How do you explain the formation of varves? The Green River formation in Wyoming contains 20,000,000 annual layers, or varves, identical to those being laid down today in certain lakes. The sediments are so fine that each layer would have required over a month to settle.
How could a flood deposit layered fossil forests? Stratigraphic sections showing a dozen or more mature forests layered atop each other--all with upright trunks, in-place roots, and well-developed soil--appear in many locations. One example, the Joggins section along the Bay of Fundy, shows a continuous section 2750 meters thick (along a 48-km sea cliff) with multiple in-place forests, some separated by hundreds of feet of strata, some even showing evidence of forest fires. [Ferguson, 1988. For other examples, see Dawson, 1868; Cristie & McMillan, 1991; Gastaldo, 1990; Yuretich, 1994.] Creationists point to logs sinking in a lake below Mt. St. Helens as an example of how a flood can deposit vertical trunks, but deposition by flood fails to explain the roots, the soil, the layering, and other features found in such places.
Where did all the heat go? If the geologic record was deposited in a year, then the events it records must also have occurred within a year. Some of these events release significant amounts of heat.
  • Magma. The geologic record includes roughly 8 x 1024 grams of lava flows and igneous intrusions. Assuming (conservatively) a specific heat of 0.15, this magma would release 5.4 x 1027 joules while cooling 1100 degrees C. In addition, the heat of crystallization as the magma solidifies would release a great deal more heat.
  • Limestone formation. There are roughly 5 x 1023 grams of limestone in the earth's sediments [Poldervaart, 1955], and the formation of calcite releases about 11,290 joules/gram [Weast, 1974, p. D63]. If only 10% of the limestone were formed during the Flood, the 5.6 x 1026 joules of heat released would be enough to boil the flood waters.
  • Meteorite impacts. Erosion and crustal movements have erased an unknown number of impact craters on earth, but Creationists Whitcomb and DeYoung suggest that cratering to the extent seen on the Moon and Mercury occurred on earth during the year of Noah's Flood. The heat from just one of the largest lunar impacts released an estimated 3 x 1026 joules; the same sized object falling to earth would release even more energy. [Fezer, pp. 45-46]
  • Other. Other possibly significant heat sources are radioactive decay (some Creationists claim that radioactive decay rates were much higher during the Flood to account for consistently old radiometric dates); biological decay (think of the heat released in compost piles); and compression of sediments.

5.6 x 1026 joules is enough to heat the oceans to boiling. 3.7 x 1027joules will vaporize them completely. Since steam and air have a lower heat capacity than water, the steam released will quickly raise the temperature of the atmosphere over 1000 C. At these temperatures, much of the atmosphere would boil off the Earth.
Aside from losing its atmosphere, Earth can only get rid of heat by radiating it to space, and it can't radiate significantly more heat than it gets from the sun unless it is a great deal hotter than it is now. (It is very nearly at thermal equilibrium now.) If there weren't many millions of years to radiate the heat from the above processes, the earth would still be unlivably hot.
As shown in section 5, all the mechanisms proposed for causing the Flood already provide more than enough energy to vaporize it as well. These additional factors only make the heat problem worse.
How were limestone deposits formed? Much limestone is made of the skeletons of zillions of microscopic sea animals. Some deposits are thousands of meters thick. Were all those animals alive when the Flood started? If not, how do you explain the well-ordered sequence of fossils in the deposits? Roughly 1.5 x 1015 grams of calcium carbonate are deposited on the ocean floor each year. [Poldervaart, 1955] A deposition rate ten times as high for 5000 years before the Flood would still only account for less than 0.02% of limestone deposits.
How could a flood have deposited chalk? Chalk is largely made up of the bodies of plankton 700 to 1000 angstroms in diameter [Bignot, 1985]. Objects this small settle at a rate of .0000154 mm/sec. [Twenhofel, 1961] In a year of the Flood, they could have settled about half a meter.
How could the Flood deposit layers of solid salt? Such layers are sometimes meters in width, interbedded with sediments containing marine fossils. This apparently occurs when a body of salt water has its fresh-water intake cut off, and then evaporates. These layers can occur more or less at random times in the geological history, and have characteristic fossils on either side. Therefore, if the fossils were themselves laid down during a catastrophic flood, there are, it seems, only two choices:
(1) the salt layers were themselves laid down at the same time, during the heavy rains that began the flooding, or
(2) the salt is a later intrusion. I suspect that both will prove insuperable difficulties for a theory of flood deposition of the geologic column and its fossils. [Jackson et al, 1990]
How were sedimentary deposits recrystallized and plastically deformed in the short time since the Flood? The stretched pebble conglomerate in Death Valley National Monument (Wildrose Canyon Rd., 15 mi. south of Hwy. 190), for example, contains streambed pebbles metamorphosed to quartzite and stretched to 3 or more times their original length. Plastically deformed stone is also common around salt diapirs [Jackson et al, 1990].
How were hematite layers laid down? Standard theory is that they were laid down before Earth's atmosphere contained much oxygen. In an oxygen-rich regime, they would almost certainly be impossible.
How do you explain fossil mineralization? Mineralization is the replacement of the original material with a different mineral.
  • Buried skeletal remains of modern fauna are negligibly mineralized, including some that biblical archaeology says are quite old - a substantial fraction of the age of the earth in this diluvian geology. For example, remains of Egyptian commoners buried near the time of Moses aren't extensively mineralized.
  • Buried skeletal remains of extinct mammalian fauna show quite variable mineralization.
  • Dinosaur remains are often extensively mineralized.
  • Trilobite remains are usually mineralized - and in different sites, fossils of the same species are composed of different materials.

How are these observations explained by a sorted deposition of remains in a single episode of global flooding?
How does a flood explain the accuracy of "coral clocks"? The moon is slowly sapping the earth's rotational energy. The earth should have rotated more quickly in the distant past, meaning that a day would have been less than 24 hours, and there would have been more days per year. Corals can be dated by the number of "daily" growth layers per "annual" growth layer. Devonian corals, for example, show nearly 400 days per year. There is an exceedingly strong correlation between the "supposed age" of a wide range of fossils (corals, stromatolites, and a few others -- collected from geologic formations throughout the column and from locations all over the world) and the number of days per year that their growth pattern shows. The agreement between these clocks, and radiometric dating, and the theory of superposition is a little hard to explain away as the result of a number of unlucky coincidences in a 300-day-long flood. [Rosenberg & Runcorn, 1975; Scrutton, 1965; Wells, 1963]
Where were all the fossilized animals when they were alive?Schadewald [1982] writes:

"Scientific creationists interpret the fossils found in the earth's rocks as the remains of animals that perished in the Noachian Deluge. Ironically, they often cite the sheer number of fossils in 'fossil graveyards' as evidence for the Flood. In particular, creationists seem enamored by the Karroo Formation in Africa, which is estimated to contain the remains of 800 billion vertebrate animals (see Whitcomb and Morris, p. 160; Gish, p. 61). As pseudoscientists, creationists dare not test this major hypothesis that all of the fossilized animals died in the Flood.
"Robert E. Sloan, a paleontologist at the University of Minnesota, has studied the Karroo Formation. He asserts that the animals fossilized there range from the size of a small lizard to the size of a cow, with the average animal perhaps the size of a fox. A minute's work with a calculator shows that, if the 800 billion animals in the Karoo formation could be resurrected, there would be twenty-one of them for every acre of land on earth. Suppose we assume (conservatively, I think) that the Karroo Formation contains 1 percent of the vertebrate [land] fossils on earth. Then when the Flood began, there must have been at least 2100 living animals per acre, ranging from tiny shrews to immense dinosaurs. To a noncreationist mind, that seems a bit crowded."

A thousand kilometers' length of arctic coastal plain, according to experts in Leningrad, contains about 500,000 tons of tusks. Even assuming that the entire population was preserved, you seem to be saying that Russia had wall-to-wall mammoths before this "event."
Even if there was room physically for all the large animals which now exist only as fossils, how could they have all coexisted in a stable ecology before the Flood? Montana alone would have had to support a diversity of herbivores orders of magnitude larger than anything now observed.
Where did all the organic material in the fossil record come from? There are 1.16 x 1013 metric tons of coal reserves, and at least 100 times that much unrecoverable organic matter in sediments. A typical forest, even if it covered the entire earth, would supply only 1.9 x 1013 metric tons. [Ricklefs, 1993, p. 149]
How do you explain the relative commonness of aquatic fossils? A flood would have washed over everything equally, so terrestrial organisms should be roughly as abundant as aquatic ones (or more abundant, since Creationists hypothesize greater land area before the Flood) in the fossil record. Yet shallow marine environments account for by far the most fossils.

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8. Species Survival and Post-Flood Ecology


"He blotted out every living thing that was upon the face of the ground," the Bible says (Gen 7:23). If the Flood was as described, that must have been an understatement.
How did all the modern plant species survive?
  • Many plants (seeds and all) would be killed by being submerged for a few months. This is especially true if they were soaked in salt water. Some mangroves, coconuts, and other coastal species have seed which could be expected to survive the Flood itself, but what of the rest?
  • Most seeds would have been buried under many feet (even miles) of sediment. This is deep enough to prevent spouting.
  • Most plants require established soils to grow--soils which would have been stripped by the Flood.
  • Some plants germinate only after being exposed to fire or after being ingested by animals; these conditions would be rare (to put it mildly) after the Flood.
  • Noah could not have gathered seeds for all plants because not all plants produce seeds, and a variety of plant seeds can't survive a year before germinating. [Garwood, 1989; Benzing, 1990;Densmore & Zasada, 1983] Also, how did he distribute them all over the world?

How did all the fish survive? Some require cool clear water, some need brackish water, some need ocean water, some need water even saltier. A flood would have destroyed at least some of these habitats.
How did sensitive marine life such as coral survive? Since most coral are found in shallow water, the turbidity created by the runoff from the land would effectively cut them off from the sun. The silt covering the reef after the rains were over would kill all the coral. By the way, the rates at which coral deposits calcium are well known, and some highly mature reefs (such a the great barrier) have been around for millions of years to be deposited to their observed thickness.
How did diseases survive? Many diseases can't survive in hosts other than humans. Many others can only survive in humans and in short-lived arthropod vectors. The list includes typhus, measles, smallpox, polio, gonorrhea, syphilis. For these diseases to have survived the Flood, they must all have infected one or more of the eight people aboard the Ark.
Other animals aboard the ark must have suffered from multiple diseases, too, since there are other diseases specific to other animals, and the nonspecific diseases must have been somewhere.
Host-specific diseases which don't kill their host generally can't survive long, since the host's immune system eliminates them. (This doesn't apply to diseases such as HIV and malaria which can hide from the immune system.) For example, measles can't last for more than a few weeks in a community of less than 250,000 [Keeling & Grenfell, 1997] because it needs nonresistant hosts to infect. Since the human population aboard the ark was somewhat less than 250,000, measles and many other infectious diseases would have gone extinct during the Flood.
Some diseases that can affect a wide range of species would have found conditions on the Ark ideal for a plague. Avian viruses, for example, would have spread through the many birds on the ark. Other plagues would have affected the mammals and reptiles. Even these plague pathogens, though, would have died out after all their prospective hosts were either dead or resistant.
How did short-lived species survive? Adult mayflies on the ark would have died in a few days, and the larvae of many mayflies require shallow fresh running water. Many other insects would face similar problems.
How could more than a handful of species survive in a devastated habitat? The Flood would have destroyed the food and shelter which most species need to survive.
How did predators survive? How could more than a handful of the predator species on the ark have survived, with only two individuals of their prey to eat? All of the predators at the top of the food pyramid require larger numbers of food animals beneath them on the pyramid, which in turn require large numbers of the animals they prey on, and so on, down to the primary producers (plants etc.) at the bottom. And if the predators survived, how did the other animals survive being preyed on?
How could more than a handful of species survive random influences that affect populations? Isolated populations with fewer than 20 members are usually doomed even when extraordinary measures are taken to protect them. [Simberloff, 1988]

References


Benzing, D. H., 1990. Vascular Epiphytes. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge.
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Garwood, N. C., 1989. Tropical soil seed banks: a review. pp. 149-209 In: Leck, M. A., V. T. Parker, and R. L. Simpson (eds.), Ecology of Soil Seed Banks, Academic Press, San Diego
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Simberloff, Daniel, 1988. The contribution of population and community biology to conservation science. Annual Review of Ecology and Systematics 19: 473-511.

9. Species Distribution and Diversity


How did animals get to their present ranges? How did koalas get from Ararat to Australia, polar bears to the Arctic, etc., when the kinds of environment they require to live doesn't exist between the two points. How did so many unique species get to remote islands?
How were ecological interdependencies preserved as animals migrated from Ararat? Did the yucca an the yucca moth migrate together across the Atlantic? Were there, a few thousand years ago, unbroken giant sequoia forests between Ararat and California to allow indigenous bark and cone beetles to migrate?
Why are so many animals found only in limited ranges? Why are so many marsupials limited to Australia; why are there no wallabies in western Indonesia? Why are lemurs limited to Madagascar? The same argument applies to any number of groups of plants and animals.
Why is inbreeding depression not a problem in most species?Harmful recessive alleles occur in significant numbers in most species. (Humans have, on average, 3 to 4 lethal recessive alleles each.) When close relatives breed, the offspring are more likely to be homozygous for these harmful alleles, to the detriment of the offspring. Such inbreeding depression still shows up in cheetahs; they have about 1/6th the number of motile spermatozoa as domestic cats, and of those, almost 80% show morphological abnormalities. [O'Brien et al, 1987] How could more than a handful of species survive the inbreeding depression that comes with establishing a population from a single mating pair?

Reference


O'Brien, S. J., D. E. Wildt, M. Bush, T. M. Caro, C. FitzGibbon, I. Aggundey & R. E. Leakey, 1987. East African cheetahs: Evidence for two population bottlenecks? Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 84: 508-511.

10. Historical Aspects


Why is there no mention of the Flood in the records of Egyptian or Mesopotamian civilizations which existed at the time? Biblical dates (I Kings 6:1, Gal 3:17, various generation lengths given in Genesis) place the Flood 1300 years before Solomon began the first temple. We can construct reliable chronologies for near Eastern history, particularly for Egypt, from many kinds of records from the literate cultures in the near East. These records are independent of, but supported by, dating methods such as dendrochronology and carbon-14. The building of the first temple can be dated to 950 B.C. +/- some small delta, placing the Flood around 2250 B.C. Unfortunately, the Egyptians (among others) have written records dating well back before 2250 B.C. (the Great Pyramid, for example dates to the 26th century B.C., 300 years before the Biblical date for the Flood). No sign in Egyptian inscriptions of this global flood around 2250 B.C.
How did the human population rebound so fast? Genealogies in Genesis put the Tower of Babel about 110 to 150 years after the Flood [Gen 10:25, 11:10-19]. How did the world population regrow so fast to make its construction (and the city around it) possible? Similarly, there would have been very few people around to build Stonehenge and the Pyramids, rebuild the Sumerian and Indus Valley civilizations, populate the Americas, etc.
Why do other flood myths vary so greatly from the Genesis account? Flood myths are fairly common worldwide, and if they came from a common source, we should expect similarities in most of them. Instead, the myths show great diversity. [Bailey, 1989, pp. 5-10;Isaak, 1997] For example, people survive on high land or trees in the myths about as often as on boats or rafts, and no other flood myth includes a covenant not to destroy all life again.
Why should we expect Genesis to be accurate? We know that other people's sacred stories change over time [Baaren, 1972] and that changes to the Genesis Flood story have occurred in later traditions [Ginzberg, 1909; Utley, 1961]. Is it not reasonable to assume that changes occurred between the story's origin and its being written down in its present form?

References


Baaren, Th. P., 1972. The flexibility of myth. Studies in the History of Religions, 22: 199-206. Reprinted in Dundes, A. (ed), 1984, Sacred Narrative, University of California Press, Berkeley.
Bailey, Lloyd R., 1989. Noah: the person and the story in history and tradition. University of South Carolina Press, SC.
Ginzberg, Louis, 1909. The Legends of the Jews, vol. 1, pp. 145-169, Jewish Publication Society of America, Philadelphia. Reprinted as "Noah and the Flood in Jewish legend" in: Dundes, Alan (ed.), 1988. The Flood Myth, University of California Press, Berkeley and London, pp. 319-336.
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11. Logical, Philosophical, and Theological Points


Are flood models consistent with the Bible? Creationists who write about the Flood often contradict the very story they're trying to support. For example, Whitcomb & Morris [1961, p. 69n] suggest that large numbers of kinds of land animals became extinct because of the Flood, while Genesis repeatedly says that Noah was ordered to take a representative sample of all kinds of land animals on the Ark to save them from extinction, and that Noah did as ordered. Woodmorappe [1996, p. 3] wants to leave invertebrates (i.e., just about "every creeping thing on the ground") off the ark. Why should we give credence to a story whose most ardent supporters abandon when it's inconvenient?
Genesis 6-8 speaks only of rain, fountains, and a flood; it makes no mention of other catastrophies which many Creationists associate with the Flood. Their proposed Flood models not only contradict geology, they have no Biblical support, either.
How can a literal interpretation be appropriate if the text is self-contradictory? Genesis 6:20 and 7:14-15 say there were two of each kind of fowl and clean beasts, yet Genesis 7:2-3,5 says they came in sevens.
How can a literal interpretation be consistent with reality? How could Noah have gathered male and female of each kind [Gen. 7:15-16] when some species are asexual, others are parthenogenic and have only females, and others (such as earthworms) are hermaphrodites? And what about social animals like ants and termites which need the whole nest to survive?
Why stop with the Flood story? If your style of Biblical interpretation makes you take the Flood literally, then shouldn't you also believe in a flat and stationary earth? [Dan. 4:10-11, Matt. 4:8, 1 Chron. 16:30, Psalms 93:1, ...]
In fact, is there any reason at all why the Flood story should be taken literally? Jesus used parables; why wouldn't God do so, too?
Does a global flood make the whole Bible less credible? Davis Young, an Evangelical and geologist, wrote [p. 163]:

"The maintenance of modern creationism and Flood geology not only is useless apologetically with unbelieving scientists, it is harmful. Although many who have no scientific training have been swayed by creationist arguments, the unbelieving scientist will reason that a Christianity that believes in such nonsense must be a religion not worthy of his interest. . . . Modern creationism in this sense is apologetically and evangelistically ineffective. It could even be a hindrance to the gospel.
"Another possible danger is that in presenting the gospel to the lost and in defending God's truth we ourselves will seem to be false. It is time for Christian people to recognize that the defense of this modern, young-Earth, Flood-geology creationism is simply not truthful. It is simply not in accord with the facts that God has given. Creationism must be abandoned by Christians before harm is done. . . ."

Another Christian scientist said, "Creationism is an incredible pain in the neck, neither honest nor useful, and the people who advocate it have no idea how much damage they are doing to the credibility of belief." [quoted in Easterbrook, 1997, p. 891]
Does the Flood story indicate an omnipotent God?
  • If God is omnipotent, why not kill what He wanted killed directly? Why resort to a roundabout method that requires innumerable additional miracles?
  • The whole idea was to rid the wicked people from the world. Did it work?

Finally, even if the flood model weren't riddled by all these problems, why should we accept it? What it does attempt to explain is already explained far more accurately, consistently, and thoroughly by conventional geology and biology, and the flood model leaves many other things unexplained, even unexplainable. How is flood geology useful?

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Easterbrook, Gregg, 1997. Science and God: a warming trend? Science 277: 890-893.
Whitcomb, J.C. Jr. & H.M. Morris, 1961. The Genesis Flood. Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Co., Philadelphia PA.
Woodmorappe, John, 1996. Noah's ark: A feasibility study. Institute for Creation Research, Santee, California.
Young, Davis, 1988. Christianity and the Age of the Earth. Artisan Sales, Thousand Oaks, CA.

Acknowledgements


I thank the following people for their contributions and helpful comments, and I thank and apologize to any other contributers whom I have inadvertently forgotten.
Ken Fair, Bob Grumbine, Joel J. Hanes, Paul V. Heinrich, Bill Hyde, William H. Jefferys, Andrew MacRae, Thomas Marlowe, Glenn R. Morton, Chris Nedin, Kevin L. O'Brien, Chris Stassen, Frank Steiger
Scott Berry
Scott Berry, Former believer
  • There would be enough water on earth for this to be a possibility
  • The water wouldn't have covered Ararat by 22.5 feet: it would have covered Everest
  • There would not be civilizations that didn't seem to notice the flood that was supposed to have covered them
  • There would be genetic signs of a bottleneck in populations
  • There would be a huge diversity of life in the Middle East, and close to no animals at all on places far away from there, like Australia. Humans would be in the Africa, Europe, and Asia (nowhere else) except that...
  • We would all be dead, since all the plants on earth would have died after being underwater for a year, and...
  • Most marine life would be dead. Freshwater dwellers wouldn't have been able to handle the increased salinity, and salt water dwellers couldn't have handled the decreased salinity
Benjamin Okopnik
Benjamin Okopnik, Endlessly curious polymath
In addition to all the other hyper-obvious silliness about it, the seamanship perspective alone shows so many ridiculous holes in the story that, were everything else about it true, this alone would be enough to sink it without a trace.

A wooden ship that is 450 feet long. Just in case you can't visualize what that means, Jack Aubrey's HMS 'Surprise' (Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World) was just under 180' long at 500 tons, 136' in deck length, and carried a complement of about 200 men - and it took nearly all of them, working in watches, to run her.

Now, let's add a basic fact about scaling ships: the volume of a ship grows as (approximately) a cube of its length. To demonstrate: 'Surpise', at 136' on deck was a ship of 500 tons displacement; 'Wyoming' (the largest wooden ship actually known to have been built), at 350' on deck, displaced 10,000 tons. (At that length, she was unable to sustain the torsional loads in rough weather and so foundered and sank with the loss of all hands.)

The Ark was supposed to be MUCH bigger than that.

The 'Wyoming', for example, required 4,000 tons of construction materials, about 400 skilled craftsmen - and the latest technological developments and resources of our entire civilization to build. Much of her weight was structural iron - as it had to be, simply to keep her from breaking up as soon as she was launched.

But there was no iron at the time that Noah was supposed to have built his Ark; in fact, despite it being called "the Bronze Age", there was really no bronze - all that was available was copper, which could barely be worked in quantities large enough to make a sword, and certainly nothing larger. Given its malleability, it wasn't something that could be used in shipbuilding... so we're down to pure wooden construction, with rope and trenails (at best) to pin together the members of this ship. Frankly, at that level of technology, NO ocean-worthy vessel of any size could be built. For comparison, I'll note that the first large ships supposedly built after the Ark (very poorly documented, with most of the measurements being rough estimates) began appearing about 2400 years later - and all of these were river craft. No ocean-going vessel of any great size in known to us until another 12oo years passed - and almost all of these were in the 50' range and below.

I could go on - e.g., the net tonnage (carrying capacity) of ships built of wood, the fact that it was supposed to be caulked with pitch (something that only works with small boats), its height of 45' split into three levels (but what about the giraffes?), its lack of even a cockpit (the entire crew stayed inside the whole time) and thus propulsion or steering (nobody to work the sails or helm!), which meant that it could never be directed anywhere...

TL;DR: there just ain't no cheese down that tunnel, nor even a smell of it.
Mike Mian
Mike Mian, Founding member of Densa.
In Genesis  7:11 and 8:2  the source of the water is described as coming from fountains of the deep and sky.  In Genesis 7:20 "Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail:  and all the mountains covered." This means that the earth became a 'water world'. The deepest parts of the ocean are now 14 miles  under water.  Therefore the deserts and human structures are covered in up to 7 miles of water.

In Genesis 8:3 "And this water returned from off the earth continually:"  There is List of the oldest buildings in the world that would either have been washed away or show signs of being submerged and the hydraulic action of subsequent currents as this water drained away. Like  Shahr-e Sukhteh a settlement Fort constructed of clay and mud in 3200 BCE in Iran. Land locked lakes or depressions  (like Crater Lake in Oregon or Meteor Crater in Arizona) would show evidence of once being submerged under a global ocean.

The volume of this water would be far greater than the current volume of water in the worlds oceans, seas and rivers combined because it covered the entire earth and the curved geometry of a sphere (consider that doubling the radius of a sphere increases it volume by 8 times). This would imply that there is a vast ocean of water under the earth's crust over 10 miles deep (we now have to contain the volume of this waters in a smaller annular radial volume that is below the deepest holes we have dug - Kola Superdeep Borehole, Al Shaheen Oil Field, Sakhalin-I, Bertha Rogers). This vast ocean would cause refractory effects in seismological data of S-waves and P-waves. It would be part of every model for earthquake prediction and commercial oil-well and mining models. 

In the biosphere this event would be etched into the DNA of every living organism. Using these techniques we have been able to identify 5 extinction events. The latest occurred about 65 000 000 BCE , well before the earliest evidence of homo sapiens (~200 000 BCE) and, 4 orders of magnitude longer ago than the time of Noah (~3000 BCE). All verifiable extinction events seem to have had their origin in tectonic activity (perhaps triggered by meteor impacts) that blocked out sunlight (seen as a layer of sulfurous  ashes). None seem to have been due to a recent global flooding (global coral reef death and and layer of hydrolyzed carbonates and carbohydrates in sub-surface soils and clays of the worlds forest and grasslands. At depths measured in mile the effects of osmosis on surface dwelling plants would be catastrophic).
Justin Collins

Sir, I’m assuming you want actual proof that Noah’s flood was global? Am I right?

Sadly, this “proof” doesn’t exist, neither in the scientific world nor in the Hebrew Bible.

Now either we people of faith can get over it, and swallow down the fact that the Bible is a joke. . . or we work away around it. Just because science says we came from apes, or that the global flood is a hoax, doesn’t mean G-d’s dead so-to-speak.

Not at all. Let me share you a little secret why.

What if I told you the flood was local all this time? And that the Torah, my tradition, and the scientific community, agreed with me?

What would you do? Give up faith? I hope not! As a Jew (assuming your Christian, anyway, the point is irrelevant here), that’s not our calling. We’re all gathered here to serve HaShem (1) no matter the costs.

Our Sages taught that the flood was local, not global, - hence, no problem.

Let me explain - though this short essay will be long, the research is premium.

I’ve broken the following up into three parts. Part one covers on what the Torah has to say, then part two and three will answer the many challenges purposed by those still believing in a global flood account.

Let’s get started.

PART ONE:

1.1 - What’s the story here?

Even thought there are well over 150 flood stories from different cultures and ethnicities, scientists from all fields - from geology to paleontology, ice cores to the signature cycles of Earth's orbital eccentricity variation - have found no evidence for a global flood. How come? Perhaps it never happened? But what does the Hebrew Bible have to offer?

In Isaiah 45:18-19, we find the following:

יחכִּי־כֹ֣ה אָמַר־יְ֠הֹוָה בּוֹרֵ֨א הַשָּׁמַ֜יִם ה֣וּא הָֽאֱלֹהִ֗ים יֹצֵ֨ר הָאָ֚רֶץ וְעֹשָׂהּ֙ ה֣וּא כֽוֹנְנָ֔הּ לֹֽא־תֹ֥הוּ בְרָאָ֖הּ לָשֶׁ֣בֶת יְצָרָ֑הּ אֲנִ֥י יְהֹוָ֖ה וְאֵ֥ין עֽוֹד:

יטלֹ֧א בַסֵּ֣תֶר דִּבַּ֗רְתִּי בִּמְקוֹם֙ אֶ֣רֶץ חֹ֔שֶׁךְ לֹ֥א אָמַ֛רְתִּי לְזֶ֥רַע יַֽעֲקֹ֖ב תֹּ֣הוּ בַקְּשׁ֑וּנִי אֲנִ֚י יְהֹוָה֙ דֹּבֵ֣ר צֶ֔דֶק מַגִּ֖יד מֵֽישָׁרִֽים:

“For so said the Lord, the Creator of heaven, Who is God, Who formed the earth and made it, He established it; He did not create it for a waste, He formed it to be inhabited, "I am the Lord and there is no other. Not in secret did I speak, in a place of a land of darkness; I did not say to the seed of Jacob, Seek Me, in vain; I am the Lord, Who speaks righteousness, declares things that are right.”

So G-d doesn’t lie, and He want shy away. But then why so much confusion?

Take for example, this quote by one of our greatest sages, Rabbi Moses Maimonides (1135-1204 CE):

"The account of the beginning [Genesis] is natural science but so profound that it is cloaked in parables." [This is because,] ". . .Conflicts between science and religion results from misinterpretations of the Torah."

He also said:

"Study astronomy and physics if you desire to comprehend the relation between the world and G-d's management of it." (2)

Hence, G-d's given us a job to do: study science to find Him, don't just rely on faith to solve everything because that’s the definition of sophism and someday that faith is going to run out; and if we're not careful, we might have already locked ourselves inside a safe we can't get out of. . such a disaster won't look good for the people of the book.

Thankfully, the rabbis kept this in mind and have made sure the Torah could never be misrepresented within their own circle.

Backtracking through the Torah, we come up with a really odd argument from the Christian camp. I've drawn up two of the toughest ones below.

1.) Did G-d use a global flood to cover the whole earth?

2.) If only a local flood, why didn't G-d just allow Noah and the animals to migrate away?

Let's answer them one at a time.

PART TWO: ARGUMENT ONE

1.) Did G-d use a global flood to cover the whole earth?

2.1 - It’s nothing more than bad mistranslation

The Hebrew phrase "whole earth" is "kol," which is translated as "all", or "erets" meaning, "earth; land; country; or ground."

There are in total, a set of three definitions. The first definition involves land (we will cover them all throughout the course of this essay).

The good news is we can see the first clause in action, all we have to do is open to the second book of Genesis where the term "kol erets" is first used.

"The name of one is Pishon; that is the one that encompasses all [kol] the land [erets] of Havilah, where there is gold." (Genesis 2:11)

"And the name of the second river is Gihon; that is the one that encompasses all [kol] the land [erets] of Cush." (Genesis 2:13)

In Tanakh, the phrase "kol erets" is almost always used when describing a piece of land rather than the whole planet. (3)

That being said, I should point out how there are other verses in Tanakh which expresses the phrase "kol erets" as a group of people, in other words, definition two. Based off the context, we know that this group lives on a piece of land on the earth. I've provided a brief example below:

"And all the land [kol] came in the forest, and there was honey on the ground." (1 Samuel 14:25)

How do we know it is the people and not the land itself? We know this because of the next verse which reads:

"And the people came into the forest, and behold, a flow of honey, but no one put his hand to his mouth for the people feared the oath.”

Regardless, the Hebrew of 1 Samuel 14:25 never tells us directly it was the people. (4) Hence, without a correct understanding of the context, untrained readers of the Hebrew Bible might perceive the first verse of actually talking about land physically moving. (5)

2.2 - Mountains or hills?

Let's move forward. Here's another challenge Young-Earth Creationists throw out at us: "What about Genesis 7:20? Doesn't the verse mention the waters covering the summit of mountains?"

Here it is based off it's original Hebrew translation:

"Fifteen cubits above did the waters prevail, and the mountains were covered up."

The Hebrew here is "ma‛al," and it means "upward," not "higher." Hence, Orthodox Jews have always taught that the flood was, at its least, 20 feet deep (15 cubits) and not 15 cubits above the tallest mountains. Moreover, the Hebrew word for mountains is not in the original text, rather, it is "har" which just means "hills." As it then turns out, this verse is just another victim of bad Christian mistranslation. (6)

Hence, when one reads the passages all throughout Genesis 8:5-9, where Noah sends out the dove in its sojourn for land, the "mountains" should really be translated as "hills," and the earth, "kol erets" as "land."

So what then about the claim that the ark landed on Mount Ararat? If we examine the passage more in depth, we'd find a very strange and foreign story then the one we're sadly used to.

In Genesis 8:10-11, the dove returns with an olive branch. Had Noah been atop Mount Ararat (at 17,000 feet of elevated ground), I'm sure he would have not found any olive branches (they don't even grow less than 5,000 feet!), hence, the ark most likely landed upon a foothill next to Ararat, if one is still to believe it to be the final resting place of the ark, theories abound. (7)

2.3 - Psalm 104 contradicts a global flood

As observant Jews, we must search the entirety of the Holy Scriptures. Hence, just as one can find many references to Sinai in the Psalms, so can one find references to the flood.

And Creationists claim they know just where that one reference to the flood is, it’s Psalm 104. There's just one problem, not only does it not mention any flood (this is all just very bad scholarship), it straight up contradicts it!

As an example, let's take the famous "Creation Psalm," (8) Psalm 104:9, it states the following:

"You set a boundary that they should not cross, that they should not return to cover the earth."

And here it is in Hebrew, the native tongue:

גְּֽבוּל־שַׂ֖מְתָּ בַּל־יַֽעֲבֹר֑וּן בַּל־יְ֜שֻׁב֗וּן לְכַסּ֥וֹת הָאָֽרֶץ:

If the author of the psalm is correct, lest the whole of Tanakh be in error, then G-d never again had the waters cover over the entire face of the earth ("kol erets") (9) since the inception of its own creation. In effect, a global flood in Noah's day would have been impossible. (10)

2.4 - What does the New Testament, contemporary historians, and the Talmud say?

Creationists who believe in the New Testament writings often cite 2 Peter 3:6-7 in their defense for G-d's worldwide deluge. Even though I'm writing for a Jewish audience, I feel it important enough to quickly answer this claim for if nothing less than to preserve the shake of historic data. If left unanswered, it is a perfect anchoring point for the belief that not all Jews (and gentiles) believed in the notion of a local flood 2,000 years ago.

So let's dissect this Christian verse. The reality is obviously different from this deceptive tactic, for the chapter in question does not stand favorably with the mindset of Creationists, it actually goes against it.

“But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed [conveying the flood].” (2 Peter 3:5-6)

Interesting. The verse claims that at "that time" ("tote cosmos”), all the people, gathered into one place before the flood, were killed. In retrospect, one could call that a worldwide flood to the ancients (specifically the Mesopotamian region). This is what the author meant when he stated how G-d flooded the "world of that time" in human history; note how at the time of this writing, the world was much larger due to the expansion made by the Romans. Had Peter wanted to convey the sense that his world and their world were the same, the Greek word, “tote” would have to go.

Again, had the people been spread out across the globe, then we could make the logical assertion that the whole world, based on the Gospel account, was indeed flooded.

So, you ask, where am I getting this concept that all the people were gathered into one place during Noah’s generation? After all, 2 Peter 3:5-6 doesn't mention this outright. But before you shout “faker” to my face, I’ll remind you that the Tower of Babel happened after the flood of Noah (Genesis 11:8-9)! Since that event, G-d separated man across the farthest reaches of the globe as a consequence for his previous failure in multiplying and occupying the entire globe. Hence, a global flood would have been both a waste of time and resources.

So in Noah’s day, the local flood would have weeded out only a fraction of humanity when compared to today’s standards. Luckily, Noah freed himself from this fallen, miserable lot. (11)

Originally, G-d had planned to wipe out all of humanity from the small communities it comprised of when all were gathered into one region, this is because Josephus (30-100 CE), one of the top Jewish historians when it comes to the ancient world, clearly stated that G-d was "determined to destroy the whole race of mankind, and to make another race that should be pure from wickedness." (12)

"Now all the writers of barbarian [Greek] histories make mention of this flood and of this ark: among whom is Berosus the Chaldean. . . Hieronymous the Egyptian. . . . Nicolaus of Damascus, in his ninety-sixth book, has a particular relation about them, where he speaks such: 'There is a great mountain in Armenia, over Minyas, called Baris, upon which it is reported that many who fled at the time of the Deluge were saved; and that one who was carried in an ark came on shore upon top of it; and that the remains of the timber were a great while preserved. This might be the man [Noah] about whom Moses, the legislator of the Jews wrote'." (13)

Notice how Josephus only mentions the nations around this local region, not the whole planet. Furthermore, he admits that there are in fact other accounts of this narrative (all within close distance to each other), which only goes to show how true of an event it really must have been to them. Regardless, the concept of a local flood can no longer be seen as a 20th century invention foreign to the Torah.

Then we have the Talmud and other works of the rabbis.

To simple quote Genesis Rabbah 23:

"The deluge in the time of Noah was by no means the only flood with which this earth was visited. The first flood did its work of destruction as far as Jaffé, and the one of Noah's days extended to Barbary.” (14)

Furthermore, the Talmud, in Sanhedrin 108a, says that everything in this world "was destroyed," meaning to say the "face of the ground" in which Noah lived. If we look at Berachot 55a, we learn that all the world "under heaven" was destroyed. This land was just east of Eden. It then states, "One who vows oneself off of the waters of the Euphrates is forbidden from all the waters in the world." This is to say that the Euphrates all the waters from the world sprang from there. That being said, there are other waters of the world with their own sources, and the rabbis knew this all too well - hence, when they spoke of "this world," they meant the one being occupied in the Middle East.

Then, in Zevachim 113a, we find the answer as to why Rabbis' Yochanan and Reish Lakish disagreed on whether the flood descended upon the land of Israel. When Rabbi Lakish said it did, he was interrupted by the former, who was shocked to hear that Israel wasn't "under heaven." But the latter assured him that was only the case because the deluge was local. (15) Genesis Rabbah 33:6 concurs with this view, being the dove brought back a torn olive leaf from Eden, which inspired Noah to plant the last grapevine from that place when he left the ark.

2.5 - A Challenge to Young-Earth Creationists

So now that I've answered some of their claims, I'd like to propose a simple challenge to Creationists who dedicate their lives fruitlessly proving a global flood: Genesis 8:1-5 tells us that G-d drove the water away through the power of a strong wind, causing it to "recede." If this were indeed a global flood, where would all that water recede too? Furthermore, how would a solid wind have had any effect at all if there were so much water on the face of the earth?

Moreover, it would behoove me to remind you that Genesis 8:6-7 and 13-14 states that the "land" became a "desert." If this thing was again global, then did the whole world become a desert? Was the earth all "dried up"? Any rational person must admit that this "earth" is nothing more than a flaw in translation.

I know this all looks like I'm jumping all over the place, but please bear with me here, it is my belief that such things are necessary in order to demonstrate to you just why a global flood could have never taken place.

PART THREE: ARGUMENT TWO

2.) If only a local flood, why didn't G-d just allow Noah and the animals to migrate away?

3.1 - Why Noah didn't have to migrate

On a rational level, why did G-d have Noah build an ark when He could have just had easily sent him away? One thing Creationists have to understand is that this kind of logic could be applied to all throughout Tanakh, including why did G-d make the Israelites travel around Jericho for seven days (Joshua 6:1-5) and why set up a system whereof the only means of healing a snake bite in the wilderness was determined on whether the person locked eyes upon a bronze serpent or not (Numbers 21:8-9)?

Let us not forget that HaShem runs the show, and that He has a plan for everyone of us to contribute too. Hence, if He so pleased for Noah to prove his love and faithfulness (as He tested Abraham with Isaac), then what better way than to test him through the command of building an ark? By doing so, Noah would have surely proven that he was indeed a follower of the one true G-d.

With all that said, G-d does give warning to the wicked, He sent angels to Sodom before its ultimate demise (Genesis 19:1), and Jonah to the gentile citizens of Nineveh (Jonah 3:3). G-d works with judgement, but also with mercy, hence, He gave Noah (and Methuselah, son of Enoch) (16) over a hundred years to build the ark and warn the people. (17) We see a clear example of this again from the commentary of Genesis Rabbah:

"Wherever [the phrase] 'a man' occurs it indicates a righteous man who warned [others]. For one hundred and twenty years Noah planted cedars and cut them down. On being asked, 'Why are you doing this?' he replied, 'The L-RD of the Universe has informed me that He will bring a Flood in the world [land].'” (18)

Of course the people scoffed him, then on second-thought, accompanied that with mockery, (19) so when the floodgates opened, they begged Noah to let them enter the ark, promising repentance - but Noah was ordered by G-d previously not to let them enter, for they had been warned for over a hundred years and chose sin over love. When the people heard that they were to be left to their fate, around 700,000 charged the ark, but were pushed back by Noah (who fought them off till the water reached his knees), (20) lions, and other wild beasts of the local area (again, if the flood were global, than lions would be extinct today since they weren't in the ark - if local, then this is no problem). (21)

That generation then drowned in the flood, but before they gave in, many of them climbed the highest hills in the desperate attempt to survive, even to the point of throwing their children over the wayside to make room. (22)

But think about it: had Noah simply leave the people behind, without ever offering a word or visual representation of what he was doing, they would have been doomed without having at least been given the chance to repent and earn their salvation.

3.2 - Why the birds and animals didn’t have to migrate

Detractors of the local flood purpose at first what appears to be an astonishing claim against its credibility, it goes something like this:

“If Noah was only troubled with a local flood, why did G-d have to send the animal kingdom and birds into the ark? Why couldn't they simply move away from the upcoming danger?"

These people aren't ornithologists, they don't have such a fair grounding in the trajectory of bird migration (note: most of the species are localized and don't actually migrate, furthermore, birds such as the Hummingbird are not capable of flying for more than twenty minutes, and in such harsh conditions as a wild storm, (23) these birds would rather sit on their perches, waiting for it to stop, and drown in the process than fly).

As for animals, some were indigenous to the region in which Noah lived, more so, if a global flood occurred, it would have taken hundreds of years for Noah and his decedents to replicate the fauna which once existed had all life been wiped out and then have to be brought back into the fold. (24)

G-d's problem was not with the animals, but with the people. Since the animals were in the way of a local flood, some indigenous to the region would have to be saved. It is also possible, like their fellow human counterparts, that not all the animals and birds migrated around the globe at that time, hence, their survival was all the more crucial. (25)

2.3 - What about G-d’s promise never again to flood the earth as discussed in Genesis 9:1-15?

When we read Genesis 9:11, 15, and Isaiah 54:9, we get the notion that G-d flooded the entire planet and then promised never again. But if the Noahic flood were only a locality issue, then why make such a promise in the first place when there have most certainly been many floods in the past and since? Hence, did the Creator of heaven and earth lie?

In order to understand what's really going on in Genesis 9:11 and 15, we'll have to examine the passage.

"And I will establish My covenant with you, and never again will all flesh be cut off by the flood waters, and there will never again be a flood to destroy the earth [land]."

A few verses later. . .

"And I will remember My covenant, which is between Me and between you and between every living creature among all flesh, and the water will no longer become a flood to destroy all flesh."

The first verses denotes that G-d will never again destroy "all flesh" by universal means such as a flood. The verse has nothing to say about a global flood, rather, the covenant is made with the people of the earth. In verse 15, we find out how the flood was local, although global in judgment of humanity. Remember, man only spread out around the globe a few chapters later, hence, even if there was a global flood, there'd be no need of it because all mankind was in one place on the earth at that time. Anything else would have been a waste of both time and resources.

But what about the rest of verse 15, where G-d promises never again to wipe out the earth ("kol erets")? The answer lies in two verses previous to this chapter. Remember Genesis 6:11-12?

Genesis 6:11 reads: "Now the earth was corrupt before God, and the earth became full of robbery."

The next verse answers:

"And God saw the earth, and behold it had become corrupted, for all flesh had corrupted its way on the earth."

Remember, the "earth" is "kol erets," or the "people of the land." Hence, G-d did not make a covenant with the earth, but with the people, and He made a promise never again to destroy them. (26)

3.4 - Conclusion

Not only do outside sources and scientific data discredit the theory of a worldwide flood, but also just a simple plain reading from the Torah (when put back into context and its original translation). If there was ever a global flood, then the Torah is in stark contradiction with the rest of Tanakh (specifically Psalm 104). Plus, there are no references found of a global flood in Genesis except for the creation account, which tells us that the catastrophic flood of Noah's day was local to his geography, and while this version of the story (which closely resembles the truth), may not be as dramatic as the cinematic portal of Hollywood epics, this is the truth of the Torah, and as Jews we are ordered to obey every word of it, regardless of our past, and often misunderstood, finite presuppositions.

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Footnotes:

1. I will at times refer to G-d as “HaShem,” which is interchangeable with the former in Jewish tradition. In Hebrew it means “no name” and is said out of respect for the Creator since we’re prohibited from uttering the Tetragrammaton.

2. Quoted from Moses Maimonides’ “Guide to the Perplexed.”

3. First definition:

Let's expound on the matter that "kol erets", as far as its first definition, refers to "land."

As an example, Leviticus 25:9 uses "kol erets" when speaking about land as opposed to the whole earth, we know this because it is not logically sound to claim that the Hebrews were to sound a horn throughout the world. A similar example can be found with Saul blowing his shofar in 1 Samuel 13:3, again, we wouldn't expect him to blow for the whole earth, now would we!

Judges 6:37 obviously expects Gideon to check his lands, not the earth's entirety, as the text says; such a task would have been impossible.

2 Samuel 18:8 says there was a battle over the face of the earth. After all, the text uses "earth [kol erets]". But truthfully, with a clear analysis of the text, it doesn't, because "kol erets" meant only a spot of land. More like a battlefield in fact. Furthermore, nor did the Jews travel throughout the earth as described in 2 Samuel 24:8. And neither did the whole earth "seek the presence" of Solomon (1 Kings 4:31-34, 10:24 and 2 Chronicles 9:22-24).

In 1 Chronicles 14:17, we hear that the world was under David's direct command, it is obvious that this isn’t true, nor was his Temple to be famous amongst all the nations during his lifetime (1 Chronicles 22:5). 2 Chronicles 9:28 tells us that the world brought all its horses to Solomon, this couldn't be possible given the timeline and circumstances of ancient history.

Even the New Testament confirms to this convention when Paul supposedly preached to the whole world (obviously, the whole world was only the Roman Empire) as described in Acts 2:5, Romans 1:8, and Colossians 1:6.

From this rendering, Hebraists know that the phrase "kol erets" means land, which is often misinterpreted to mean the whole of earth as further verses attest below​:

Genesis 13:9 speaks of separating the "whole land," though that whole land was just Canaan, not earth. Genesis 13:15 speaks of G-d reserving the land of Canaan for Abraham's decedents. Genesis 19:28 uses "kol erets" when describing the land between Sodom and Gomorrah.

4. Second definition:

"Kol erets" (i.e., the people, meaning to say, when Tanakh says, "the whole of earth," it can sometimes mean a population rather than a geographical space).

Some further examples: ​

"Far be it from You to do a thing such as this, to put to death the righteous with the wicked so that the righteous should be like the wicked. Far be it from You! Will the Judge of the entire earth [the people therein] not perform justice?" (Genesis 18:25)

For more, see Joshua 23:14, 2 Samuel 15:23, 1 Kings 2:2, 1 Chronicles 16:14, 16:30, Psalms 66:4, 96:1, 9, 98:4, 100:1, 105:7, and Isaiah 14:7. It is obvious from these verses alone that the earth doesn't weep, shout and cry, people do.

Here's a quick example from the flood narrative itself:

"Now the earth was corrupt before God, and the earth became full of robbery." (Genesis 6:11)

Can the earth become corrupted? Of course not, this verse alludes to the people. Genesis 6:12, 9:13, and 11:1 further echo this sentiment.

Some more examples with brief comments:

Genesis 41:57 reads: "And all the earth came to Egypt to Joseph to purchase, for the famine had intensified on the entire earth."

Once again, had you attempted to interpret this verse to mean the entire world population, then where were the Americans, Africans and Chinese?

To the ancients "kol erets" was their world.

Exodus 34:10 mentions how G-d will perform miracles not seen in all the earth "amongst any of the nations." This clause crushes any claim that G-d meant the whole planet, for even in our modern day, there are still islands barren of man's footprint.

5. Third definition:

"Kol erets" appears no less than 205 times throughout the Hebrew Bible, and when it does refer to the entire world (which is no more than 40 times in all, and is debatable), they are mostly found in either the Psalms or Isaiah (see footnotes 11-13).

Genesis sporadically mentions "the whole earth," but only in three places, first is in the creation account, the second is incorrectly translated in the flood narrative, and the third in Cain's banishment (Genesis 4:14) - but was Cain literally banished from the earth? No, only from the land in which he resided.

​Funny enough, there's an actual Hebrew word for the whole earth, or at least its inhabitants. That word is "tebel," and it appears only in the accounts of the creation or the earth during its future Messianic Age.

In all its 37 occurrences throughout Tanakh, it is never once used in describing Noah's flood.

6. This is because we have textual proof of this: "Har" usually refers to hills as can be seen in well over 649 verses all throughout Tanakh, 212 times it is translated as "hills" in the plural, or "hilly country." In Genesis, "har," as in hills, makes up 10 out of 19 verses, whereas "mountains" (note how there's never any mention of a mountain range in the flood narrative) make up only 4 of 9 verses (and of which only appear in the flood narrative)! That must really tell you something about bad translation and what the KJV, along with other popular modern Christian Bibles such as the NASB and NIV, have done to our Torah.

Technically, one could replug-in "hills" all throughout the flood narrative and be in perfect harmony with the original Hebrew as it was meant to be read.

Now of course there is an actual Hebrew word for mountains, and that's "gaboah", but it is noteworthy that the term is never once used when describing Noah's flood. Based on everything's we've now learned, we can be sure the waters did not cover up the tallest mountains of the earth.

7. The rabbis (Midrash ha-Gadol, p. 161; 'Eduy. ii. 10; Seder 'Olam R. iv.), thought he landed in Siwan, at the base of Mount Kartunja. Furthermore, it couldn’t have been Mount Ararat because the Torah never says so, it only says “The mountains of Ararat” (see Genesis 8:4).

8. The “Creation Psalm” consists of Psalm 104:1-9, it recounts the creation in the exact same order as Genesis. The verses after it clearly have no relation whatsoever since they mention Lebanon as an active nation.

9. The psalm is an exception to the biblical rule of "kol erets" because it specifically distinguishes the creation account as of the whole earth - before the flood. In effect, this rendering of "kol erets" falls in with definition three.

10. Let's dig a little here, the following are some further examples which will show the reader the deep comparisons Psalm 104 has with the creation account of Genesis and the Tanakh as a whole:

Psalm 104:2, "[You, G-d] enwrap Yourself with light like a garment; [You] extend the heavens like a curtain. . . ."

This fits perfectly with Genesis 1:1, 1:3, Job 9:8, Isaiah 40:22, 42:5, 44:24, 45:12, 48:13, 51:13, Jeremiah 10:12, 51:15, and Zechariah 12:1.

Psalm 104:3 says: "Who roofs His upper chambers with water; Who makes clouds His chariot, which goes on the wings of the wind."

Again, in harmony with Amos 9:6.

Psalm 104:4, "He makes winds His messengers, burning fire His ministers."

Psalm 104:5, "He founded the earth on its foundations that it not falter to eternity."

This parallels Psalm 102:25, Isaiah 48:13, 51:13, 51:15, and Zechariah 12:1.

Psalm 104:6, "You covered the deep as [with] a garment; the waters stand on the mountains."

An allusion to Genesis 1:2 and 1:9 when referencing sea creatures being the world was in a state of mass volumes of water prior to man’s existence prior to the receding of the seas.

Psalm 104:7-8, "From Your rebuke they fled; from the sound of Your thunder they hastened away. They ascended mountains, they descended into valleys to this place, which You had founded for them."

We see this in direct correlation to Genesis 1:9-10 and Psalm 136:5-6.

Psalm 104:9, "You set a boundary that they should not cross, that they should not return to cover the earth."

Again, see the correspondence between the verse above and Proverbs 8:29, Psalm 33:6-7, Jeremiah 5:22, and Job 38:8-11 (which actually references day three of creation).

When one studies the flood narrative, he or she will quickly note that the term "boundaries", as seen in Psalm 104:9, 33:6-7, Proverbs 8:29, 30:4, Jeremiah 5:22, and Job 38:4, 8-11, cannot be referencing a global flood because the term doesn't appear in those which do reference it!

Overall, Psalm 104 is not talking about a global flood as so many have mistakenly deduced from Genesis 6-9. G-d did not stretch out the heavens, nor lay the foundations of the earth during the flood narrative. On the flip side, there is not one reference to judgement nor destruction for the sins of the people in this blessed psalm. We can then rest assured that Psalm 104 has nothing to do with the flood narrative found in Genesis.

11. To the rabbis of the Talmud, Noah’s wicked generation would not resurrect for the World to Come (the Messianic Age), rather, they’d be trapped in Gehenna for all eternity (Sanhedrin 108a, B.T.) This is due to their sins, which consisted of both rape and larceny (Genesis 6:2,11). Sanhedrin 38b B.T. and Tanna debe Eliyahu 31 mentions that the people of Noah’s day walked proudly in their nakedness. Furthermore, Rashi (1040–1105 CE) tells us that six generations before, man was punished by G-d for his disbelief in the divine, but the punishment wasn’t severe enough and man, self-evidently, didn't learn his lesson (see Rashi, commentary on Genesis 4:26).

In retrospect, G-d, after saving Noah, had thought about reconsidering and continuing on with His destruction of mankind but stopped short due to the sudden realization that if the world could produce more men such as Noah, it would be better to continue nurturing them (see both Genesis 9:13, commentary by Ibn Ezra and Chagiga 16a, B.T.). Some rabbis even went as far as to believe that G-d had first threatened to destroy Noah too, but then again, relented after “finding favor in his eye” (Sanhedrin 108a, B.T., via a grammatical construction on Genesis 6:7).

From Sanhedrin 108b, B.T., we further learned that G-d forbade Noah and his family of any sexual license while in voyage, as a result, they were in a state of celibacy. Sanhedrin 108a, B.T. conveys the idea that had Noah lived in any other generation, he would not have been considered righteous because his deeds were no match to those of the patriarchs of the Torah (Genesis Rabbah 22:3 takes it a step further, quoting Noah as the inventor of grape-dressing, and hence, an occasional drunkard in pre-flood times). In the Talmud, Rabbi Oshaia compared him to a barrel of wine sitting in the cellar, where its order is fragrant next to a vault of acid (representing the wicked generation); anywhere else, and it will not smell as sweet.

Though it is worth mentioning that Ezekiel 14:14 considered him to be on the same end of the spectrum as Daniel and Job; and as a consequence, the rabbis were always debating on who was the better servant, Noah or Abraham. It was their belief that Abraham showed more mercy when squaring off with G-d in Genesis 18:28-32; Noah did no such thing.

As a side note, it is interesting to learn that many of the above quotations were taken straight out of Tanakh, but were later edited out by the rabbis as “deleted scenes” of the Bible and replaced in the Talmud. Many of these extra-biblical stories were later rediscovered by non-Jewish scientists still intact in their original form within the Dead Sea Scrolls.

For a full text of Sanhedrin 108a-b (as well as all other Talmudic passages quoted herein), please see Babylonian Talmud: Sanhedrin 108.

12. Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews: Book 1, Chapter 3, Section 2.

13. Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews: Book 1, Chapter 3, Section 6.

14. For the full text of Genesis Rabbah, see https://www.sefaria.org/Bereishi....

15. Also see Pirke R. El. 33.

16. See Genesis 5:21-27. G-d delayed the flood until Methuselah’s death (Sefer ha-Yashar, p. 144). Afterwich, seven days were taken for mourning in which G-d changed the natural order of the cosmos by removing two stars from the Kimah constellation (pleiades) which made night into day and vice-versa in the final hopes that mankind would witnesses these “signs” and repent (Midrash ha-Gadol, p. 155-156; Sanhedrin 108b).

17. Noah was 600 years old when the floodgates opened. G-d commanded him to start building the ark (Genesis 6:3) 120 years previously. At 100 years in, Yafet (also spelled Japheth) was born; 98 years in, Noah’s second son, Shem, was born. Somewhere around 95-96, Ham was born. 55 years in, Noah finally started construction on the ark and everything (animals included) were loaded 7 days before the first raindrop of the Hebrew year, 1656.

Once he was inside, Noah did not need the rays of the sun to see. This is because in Genesis 6:16, a rare word is found. That word is tzohar, and Noah was commanded by G-d to make it prior to the deluge. It is usually translated as "window," but to the Kabbalists and Jewish mystics, that light was actually a unique gemstone containing the light of creation from day one.

This notion of a glowing gem has its origins in the Talmud, where Rabbi Johanan first interpreted the tzohar as such.

In Genesis Rabbah 31:11, we read:

"During the entire twelve months that Noah was in the ark he did not require light of the sun by day or the light of the moon by night, but he had a polished stone which he hung up - when it was dim, he knew it was day, when it was bright, he knew it was night."

We find this small little light not only in the Talmud, but in works such as Baba Batra, Pirke Avot, Pirke de Rabbi Eliezer and Exodus Rabbah. This small gem was created before by Adam, who then passed it down his line to Noah, to Moses, and all the way to the founder of Kabbalah, Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai.

18. Midrash Genesis Rabbah, 30:7, p.235. Also, the New Testament confirms the Midrashic source when it quotes Noah preaching to the people (see Hebrews 11:7).

19. [The people shouted back at Noah:]”‘If the flood should come, it could not harm us. We are too tall; and moreover, we could close [it] up with our feet the springs from below [mocking the abyss].’ In fact, they resorted to these tactics; but G-d heated the water, and their feet and the flesh of the bones were scaled (Pirke R. El. 22). According to the Midrash ha-Gadol (see specifically ed. Schechter, p. 145), Noah asked them what kind of flood they thought were to befall them had they chose not to repent.

The people again responded with much laughter: “If a flood of fire, they had a fire-animal, ‘alitha’ [thought to be some mythical fungus], the name of which would act as a spell against fire; if water, they had sheets of iron wherewith to cover the land so that no water could come through from below; but in case the waters descended from above, they had another contrivance by which to escape - the ‘akosh.’” (Sponge, Sanhedrin 108a, b, B.T.). G-d, of course, thwarted their plans.

​20. See Genesis Rabbah, 32.

21. Tanhuma, Noah, 10; Genesis Rabbah 32.14; Sefer HaYashar.

22. See Tanchuma Noah 10.

23. Speaking of animals, Noah got his knowledge of how to feed them in two fold: by studying their habits during the lapse of a 120 years and the teachings of G-d. He would then use these skills to feed them daily (Genesis 7:21) and found G-d’s grace (6:8) when he fed each animal “in the second hour of the day and which best was to be fed in the third hour of the night” (Genesis Rabbah 29:4). Figs and branches were reserved for the elephants, “chatsubah for the deer, z’khukhit for the ostriches.” Noah even gave the latter shards of glass so they could grind the food while digesting (Midrash Tanchuma, Noah 2) and only fed himself an equal amount of which he gave each creature. He would even sometimes save his meal only when he was very hungry - viewing his importance as secondary to that of the survival of the animal kingdom (Genesis Rabbah 31:14). His family hardly felt any sleep because of the odor and constant preparations which went for carrying them (see Genesis Rabbah 30:6 and Midrash Tanhuma). One time, he was so tired that he forgot about the lion and was late with its meal, when he approached it, it bit him hard and forevermore Noah carried a limp (Tanchuma Noah 14).

Noah suffered through all these trials because he loved the animals. “It is written, ‘A righteous one knows the soul of his animal.’ (citing Proverbs 12:10) The righteous one of the world [G-d] even understands the soul of his animal [i.e., the animals in the ark]” (Tanhuma Noah 10). Earlier, we find in tanhuma Noah 4, the following: “Why is Noah called ‘righteous’? Because he fed the creatures of the Holy One, blessed be He, and became like his Creator. Thus it says, ‘For the L-RD is righteous, loving righteous deeds.”

“Rabbi Chana b. Bizna said: [Once,] Eliezer (Abraham's servant) asked Shem, ‘What was it like for you [in the ark]?’ He replied, ‘We had so much trouble in the ark. The animals which usually feed by day we fed by day, and those which normally feed at night we fed by night. But my father [Noah] didn’t know what was the food of the chameleon [he forgot]. One day he was sitting and cutting up a pomegranate, when a worm dropped out of it, which [the chameleon] ate. From then on he mashed up bran for him, and when it became wormy, he ate it.’” We further learn that the phoenix was so distressed by events that it forbade itself of food, in reaction to this, Noah blessed it to have eternal life (Sanhedrin 108, B.T.

24. Rabbi Abba believed in a local flood, he taught to his student how Noah’s wife, Naamah, actually played a major role in the ecological system by helping Noah gather all the food prior to the flood. Later, she’d gather all the seeds from all plant life (within the local community) for replanting once the ark had landed (for more, see Rabbi Sandy Eisenberg Sasso’s Noah’s Wife: The Story of Naamah).

25. The Sefer HaYashar believes while the ark was on it’s sojourn, it was visited by several severe storms.

26. Another sign for G-d’s promise was the initiation of flowers which were, prior to the pre-flood world, never seen on earth. The Zohar explains:

"When did they [the first flowers] appear? When a rainbow can [first] be seen, they [were] revealed. At that moment . . . the time came to eradicate all the evil in the world. . . . Why did they [the humans] survive [the flood]? Because flower buds have appeared on the land. And if they were to be seen beforehand, they could not have remained in the world [because it was full of evil], and the world would not have been able to exist. Had they not appeared, there would be no salvation for the world [of humanity]."

Before an answer is given as to why this is so, I feel it my duty to quickly introduce some of the basic tenets of Kabbalah to those readers unversed in it’s highly esoteric nature.

In Kabbalistic tradition, G-d (the Ein Sof, or infinite being), created the physical universe with Malchut (darkness), and the spiritual realm with the ten emanations of Sefirot (light), which make up His being.

Man’s goal in this world is to penetrate the darkness of his own evil inclination (the Yetzer Hara), and by so doing, he’ll create a cosmic bridge to the metaphysical realm of the divine and resuscitate the world, which has fallen in darkness since the transgression of Adam. Once he has accomplished this task, the Ein Sof can reunite with the core of Malchut, and through this balance, heal humanity. In Noah’s day, man failed to bear fruit. G-d then capitalized in effect to drown out the wicked. After the destruction, He repopulated the land with the first buds, a new radiance was born, and this, along with the rainbow, served as a sign - a sign which read: give us a chance, mankind can overcome his wrong, and repair this broken world.

But these flowers were only the first act; they marked the opening of light entering into darkness to redeem the world. It is up to us to complete the undone task. Are we up to the test? Only time, and the hopeful good heart of humanity, will tell - lest we wish to repeat the flood of Noah’s day.

Stephen Frantz
Stephen Frantz, Trying to understand how to properly be an apprentice of Jesus.
All of the remains of all the animals killed in the flood would be evenly distributed vertically through the geologic column and geographically across the globe.

All the sections of the geologic column would have the same radiometric date.

There would be no surviving freshwater fish.

There would be enough water in the ecosphere to cover Mt. Everest.

All the animals would have traveled from Turkey to their various widely distributed locations and islands.

The DNA of each species of animal would reduce to two of each kind approximately 5000 years ago. In other words, each species and variation of every animal would have been been produced by natural selection in the past 5500 years.

[Edit: I clarify my answer in a response to a comment]
David Markel
David Markel, Commercial Sculptor
Flood mythology is most likely rooted in the global sea-rise attached to the end of the last ice age, so yes, there was a "flood" which inspired but was in very few ways similar to the biblical deluge. It didn't even come close to covering the mountains, but we do have a very frightening analog in the modern world: climate change-induced rise in sea level. 

Assuming that the human population lived predominantly in coastal regions or close to major bodies of water, and that sea levels may have risen by as much as 30 feet in quite a short period (help with sources, please!), there is every reason to believe that all of the world's great flood myths are based in fact, despite obvious deviations in the details.

Evidence for the "flood" is out there, well documented, and clearly visible to the everyday observer.  The Great Lakes are one very obvious remnant of that flooding.
Daniel Montano
Daniel Montano, I can read English.
The water problem. There isn't enough water to cover the tallest mountains.

Creationists would argue that Earth was a lot flatter then. The mountains lower and presumably the abyss shallower. Never mind that the bible doesn't say absolutely anything about this. The bible needs to read literally but you can pile the bull at will in whatever it doesn't mention.

Of course, earth being flatter at the time of the flood answers that question but leaves many more difficult questions to answer. We need a process through which all our mountain ranges rose from the humble hilly antediluvian origins into their current heights. The energy to raise the Himalayas, the Alps, Andes, Rockies, and all others in only 5000 years is crazy large enough that there would be more than sufficient evidence of that process.

Not to mention we would have stories on every civilization about mountains rising several feet every day. I know I would have written about it if I saw that, just as I would have written about all the dinosaurs that survived the flood (because apparently the ark was loaded with dinosaur eggs that rolled into it by pairs).