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What is the difference between modern and classical liberalism, without using too much philosophical jargon?

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Edwin Willers
Edwin Willers, works at Computer Programmers

Classical liberalism is the idea that “individuals are inherently good” and that they don’t need to be restricted by laws. Laws in Classical liberalism are for restricting what governments can do. e.g. If you look at the American constitution, most of the stuff in there is about preventing governments from doing stuff like banning speech or guns. People are expected to be good enough to need no restrictions on their actions.

Modern liberalism a.k.a American liberalism happened as a consequence of the world wars and related atrocities, in which people realized people can do a lot of harm to each other, and may not be inherently good. Modern liberals a.k.a American liberals still believe people are “socially” good, but cannot be trusted with monetary/economic/(self-)defense related freedoms. So they believe people need to be restricted using laws about avarice and (self-)defense.

All liberals, classical and modern, believe in the equal goodness of all people in the domains they believe people should be allowed to be free in. So modern liberals believe governments should not be allowed to make laws defining social norms. Classical liberals are also against laws defining social norms, but they are also against laws defining economic norms (e.g. what currency should be used to settle debts).

This idea of equal goodness of people in various domains, is morphing in many ways into enforcing equality in various domains. So the latest class of liberals around the world are against all (or most) social norms. e.g. They are against toilets for different genders, and just having only 2 genders, and preventing people from switching genders, and laws defining the roles of women etc.

Essentially modern liberalism has discovered a contradiction between equality and freedom while preaching equal freedoms for all. On one hand freedoms frees people to discourage and encourage certain social norms. On the other hand that leads to a inequality because some norms are preferred and some norms are discouraged.

Perhaps the simplest way to understand the difference between these two terms is that they are referring to the same intellectual tradition at different points of development.  Thus, the term classical liberalism refers to pre-nineteenth century thinkers who helped establish a certain liberal theory of the state.  This would include most prominently John Locke, Montesquieu, Adam Smith, though not Rousseau, who really was in no sense a liberal.
 
     Modern liberalism refers to contemporary inheritors of this classical tradition who have retained commitment to the values of individualism and limited government but adapted the meaning of these concepts to fit the circumstances of modern societies impacted by the implications of the Industrial Revolution and monopolistic capitalism.  The modern liberal is still committed to the defining idea of the maximization of human freedom but recognizes (contrary to libertarians, for example) that freedom must mean not merely lack of regulation but fostering everyones opportunity to exercise control over and responsibility for their own lives.  Freedom means not mere license but empowerment.
 
    This is the short answer to your question, but the point is that the most common confusion about modern liberalism is that it somehow turns it back on the classical view of liberalism.  What it really attempts to do is figure out how the classical tradition can still be made relevant in contemporary society.  It is important to keep in mind that when the earliest liberal thinkers thought about limited government and market economies they actually had no first hand historical experience with such systems as would ultimately emerge later in the nineteenth century.  Later liberals were dealing with the problem of how you pursue the project of freedom in the midst of massive economic inequality, huge concentrations of private wealth, extensive poverty and the exploitation of labor.
 
    I hope this helps.
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S. Marshall Priddy
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The simplest terms I would give would be that classical liberalism is concerned with the *means* of government, while modern liberalism is focused on the *ends* of government.
 
There’s a subtle difference between the words “liberty” and “freedom,” though they’re obfuscated in normal conversations.  Freedom is about the restrictions one person places on another, while liberty is a matter of constraining the mechanisms of government.  They’re closely related.  In the US, the origins of the nation were greatly concerned with liberty—by which the framers meant placing restrictions on the types of laws that may be made—but they were not sufficiently (or at all, in some cases) concerned with freedom, which is why the abomination of slavery was allowed to persist.  Yet the Bill of Rights and the Constitution did a great deal to ensure liberty, insofar as the government was restricted from restricting the rights and privileges of citizens.  But from a citizen to a non-citizen, there were incredible abuses.
 
Note the phrasing of Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address:
 
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal… [later] …that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom— and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
 
Note the different usages there of liberty and freedom.  Liberty was the story of the early republic, but now that we were working toward the abolition of slavery, we were regarding it essential to the dignity of all men created equal that freedom should likewise be our great concern.
 
The problem was that in the US at that time, freedom and liberty ran in direct conflict.  The means employed to end slavery—that is, expand freedom—required that many of the constraints placed on government be either loosened or broken altogether.  It is easy enough to ask the question, “what value does liberty which restrains government have for a slave, destitute of all freedom and all hope for the future?”  In the execution of the Civil War and the early reconstruction, many violations of liberty were made.  Lincoln was found to violate old restrains like habeas corpus (the detaining indefinitely of prisoners without due process), the 13th Amendment was passed with shady deals made, and there were incredible legal inconsistencies in how the reconstruction amendments were forced through congress.  Nevertheless, the end was a great necessity.
 
So here’s your breakdown between classics and moderns.  In the era of Jefferson and Locke (17th-18th Centuries), classic liberalism was focused on restraining the sorts of laws that may be passed.  In the later era of Thoreau and Mill (19th Century), the final end result that people should be free and enfranchised, with no special privileges to any, became the primary concern.  The focus moved to the *ends* of government—that there be a great leveling between people, with no class distinctions and high degrees of equality—from the *means* of government—that the government be restrained from odious and tyrannical laws and taxes.
 
Where this starts to matter today is the question: now that we have removed the arbitrary restrictions from government that create differences between citizens (e.g. slavery is ended, suffrage is universal for citizens over 18, Jim Crow laws are destroyed, etc.), are we at a point where we should:
 
a) Refocus our efforts to restricting the government from making arbitrary distinctions, protect free speech and the right to bear arms and due process of law, allowing people to determine by their own virtues, labors, and fortunes how high they may rise? (Classical liberalism)
 
b) Use the government to make affirmative legislation to equalize the results, leveling the differences between people by creating special advantages for the needy and higher burdens for the wealthy, seeking to destroy any great differences between citizens that separate them, however they may arise? (Modern liberalism)
 
While both types of liberals will be strong on ending the police state and ensuring due process, the biggest differences arise in economic matters.  Classic liberals favor low or no tariffs, reduced regulatory burdens, even taxation with a low tax burden, and thus reduced government expenditures and small government overall.  Modern liberals favor a highly progressive tax system, high taxes to break up large aggregations of wealth at the upper strata, many regulations on businesses, high minimum wage laws, and barriers to free international trade.
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Michael Beraka
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The word liberal is probably one of the most arbitrarily used in American politics. If you include classical liberalism, then it could easily mean either “conservative”, “progressive”, or “leftist,” all different things.

“Liberalism” is of course related to the word “liberty”—it is a school of political thought that renders everything the government does subordinate to its insurance of its citizens’ freedom.

What you’re calling “modern” liberalism was originally called “social” liberalism, to distinguish it from its parent—“classical” liberalism, which in America (although less so by the year), coalesced into “conservatism.” We have no original, primordial aristocratic order to “conserve,” so really that is a misnomer: it means placing the burden of justification on the advocate of curtailing liberty to improve the country, which is to say that its better to let the country remain imperfect, than to try to make it more perfect by strengthening the state at the expense of the individual.

The divide of left and right in America differed from that of the rest of the world for that reason—after the French Revolution (when the concept of “left and right” was formed), there were liberals/republicans on the left and monarchists/conservatives on the right. The fault line was really between the idea that government can be actively created on the left, and that something resembling monarchy and aristocracy is the inevitable and natural order of the universe on the right. All the ideas of classical liberalism—property rights, consent of the governed, representation by the people, were never really disputed in America, whose regime accepts the principle of liberalism in this sense to be non-negotiable, as it is taken to represent manifestly “inalienable rights.” Old World conservatives were sometimes illiberal—which is to say liberalism wasn’t a priority for them, but they didn’t actively oppose it, as fascists like Hitler and Stalin did.

For this reason, by the 20th century, left/right, somewhat uniquely in this country, became a contest between classical liberalism on the right—which meant a more strict modeling off the founding, that the government owed you nothing other than not to make your life worse than it already was—and social liberalism on the left, which promulgated modest compromises to freedom in order to empower the state to make society more just and equitable. In principle at least, both social and classical liberals believe that what really matters first and foremost, is that the citizenry be free, and that the state be the property of the people rather than the other way around—at knowing cost to the efficiency of its apparatus.

However, many on the left calling themselves liberals are in fact actively anti-liberal, which is to say “leftist.” Leftists do not believe in consent of the governed [something quite different than a simple voting majority—a subject for a different post] or property rights, which is the opposite of liberalism. For them, what matters is equality, at the expense (as it inevitably is) of freedom. Liberalism is equality of opportunity, and leftism is equality of outcome. Social or “modern” liberalism attempts to straddle the fence, assisting in the equality of outcome without going full scale leftist and curbing people’s fundamental freedom.

It should be noted that liberal and conservative are asymmetrical categories; a “progressive” is the opposite of a conservative, and an anti-liberal/fascist is the opposite of a liberal. It is possible to be a (constitutional, i.e. “American”) “conservative liberal” then…men like John F. Kennedy and D.P. Moynihan come to mind. People tend to give the political right a monopoly on “fascism” which is just a left PR victory; a fascist is simply someone who believes the people are the property of the state and does not recognize property rights, an anti-individualist, i.e. an anti-liberal.

Alexander Musarra
Alexander Musarra, Soldier, Musician
This is the simplest way that I can put it.

Classical LIberalism is a response to the old regime of absolute power and monarchy.

- Rather than rigid class systems, individuals can pursue their own enterprises and conduct business and trade freely. In other words, Capitalism.
- People no longer wanted to be subject to the absolute power of king. They wanted to govern themselves, for better or worse. In other words, democracy.
- Overall, it was heavily influenced by the Enlightenment and rational thought. In the United States, it is demonstrated by our separation of church and state, and the perceived equality of all citizens. Classical Liberalism has values of individualism and self-reliance.

Modern Liberalism is a response to problems brought about by Classical Liberalism.
- The power of monarchs was quickly replaced by the power of huge business and corporate elite. Class systems were still present, just switched around. This has led to government regulation of corporations.
- Pure capitalism also resulted in, through excessive speculation, in the Great Depression. That is what people mean when the refer to "bubbles bursting." The government then gave itself the duty of moderating the economy to prevent it from happening again.
- Modern Liberalism also has many social implication. It has much more to do with social equality than Classical. It pushes to give the most people possible access to a modern, high standard of living. It also has a values of sustainability and international peace.

The word liberalism itself comes from the same root as liberty. It has meanings of openness to change and a lack of restriction. Over time though, people have changed their ideas of what restricts and what doesn't.

In essence, the difference can be explained by a disagreement on the concept of liberty. A Classical Liberal would fall in line with the negative definition of liberty. This describes the absence of obstructions to liberty and is the justification for limiting governmental interference. A modern liberal promotes positive liberty which describes a state of unhindered ability to pursue your goals and desires. Positive liberty justifies State intervention to alleviate barriers such as poverty. A classical liberal would assert that the impoverished are free because of the absence of imposed obstruction, they are free to spend their money as they please, but they choose to be prudent. A modern liberal would argue that poverty is a barrier to freedom in itself, and measure should be taken to alleviate the impoverished condition.

The consequence of this debate are:

Libertarians (and conservative republicans to a lesser degree) adhere to classic liberalism. Their stance can be determined for any issue through two questions. Primarily, does the legislation expand the power of government or open the door to future abuse of power? If the answer is yes, they would oppose; if it is no you must ask the second question. Does this legislation unnecessarily infringe on individual liberty? With the same conclusions listed above.

Democrats believe in modern liberalism (in general), which includes elements of democratic socialism and distributive justice. They generally favor a mixed economy in tandem with an expansive welfare system. Any legislation that would allow free exercise of liberty, even at the expense of others, is justified so long as all parties still have liberty in the positive sense. Some dubbed Leftists take this to a far left vision of egalitarianism. Positive liberty in their context cannot be achieved in the presence of social norms that exclude minorities in respect to gender, class, and race.